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Time to trade Granger

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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#81 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:44 am

I think very dependent on what goes down, NJ would be pretty interested in him and could provide the kind of 3rd team value that could bring you a better player or similar level player who gives you what you need with better fit.


Scoot and me were talking about this on the Trade board. At first I scoffed at Granger and Collison bringing back a big time upgrade at the point or something similar, but I stupidly didn't think of a 3 team deal.




If Dwight was going to make it to free agency, there's a good chance NJ would be willing to move Brook Lopez and maybe the Rockets pick for a wing like Granger as long as most of our 2012 salary was outgoing.

To me Lopez is worth more then Granger to most teams as long as he checks out as fully healthy and is back for 10 or so games prior to the deadline, but if the Nets are confident Dwight is coming in FA they may look to deal Brook to set up some sort of Big 3 before free agency and the need to work S&T's that all 3 or 4 parties agree on in the offseason.

Of course we can keep Brook to be part of the BIg 3, but on defense he's a center through and through for the most part and although you can get away with it easily en route to a ton of wins in the regular season, during 7 game series in the playoffs I don't know it's a great idea and we'll still have a high pick to fill the 4.



So to make a long story longer, I could see something along the lines of Collison and Granger where it lands you Rondo, or Steph Curry and a decent young 2 guard, or maybe say Monta Ellis.
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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#82 » by basketballwacko2 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:17 pm

celtspacers wrote:You should never say Danny Grangers name in anything that compares him to Kobe. Kobe's a winner. Granger's is a loser. He's the number one guy on a team that has a hard time making the Playoffs in the weak Eastern Conference. if the Pacers were in the Western Conference he would have never been in the playoffs once. Pacers aren't going anywhere with him as they're number one guy. He has some trade value now but it's going to go down. So if your happy with Granger as your teams go to guy and never winning a Championship. or You prefer a team thats fun to watch and never win anything. consider yourself lucky because you have what you want.


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Who compared Granger to Kobe? Not anyone that I saw on this tread. Danny is a solid player who many teams would want, I think he's better as a #2 guy playing with Bryant or James or better yet big man like Howard, but NONE of us are delusional saying he is as good as Kobi or LeBron, for Gods sake!! :noway:

You don't think the Bobcats or Hornets would be better with him at SF? He has 2 yrs left after this season on his deal. I'd be looking to move him after the season get as much as possible and move George to his SF spot. 8-)
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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#83 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:53 am

Just as a no harm intended in general, the Hornets or Bobcats would have zero interest in Granger and giving up big assets for him.

A lot of competing teams would love him, but then what do they have to offer they would be willing to give up?
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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#84 » by Katalyst » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:36 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Just as a no harm intended in general, the Hornets or Bobcats would have zero interest in Granger and giving up big assets for him.

A lot of competing teams would love him, but then what do they have to offer they would be willing to give up?

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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#85 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:35 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Just as a no harm intended in general, the Hornets or Bobcats would have zero interest in Granger and giving up big assets for him.

A lot of competing teams would love him, but then what do they have to offer they would be willing to give up?



Maybe they would or wouldn't but they'd be better with him, the Bobcats have nothing to offer other than draft picks that's the worst looking roster I've ever seen, excpt or Kemba Walker they look like a really poorly drafted expansion team. As for NOLA's train wreck of a team well nuff said. :lol:

I can see trades after the season but not before draft time, the Pacers are playing good so no need to mess it up.
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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#86 » by Scoot McGroot » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:09 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Just as a no harm intended in general, the Hornets or Bobcats would have zero interest in Granger and giving up big assets for him.

A lot of competing teams would love him, but then what do they have to offer they would be willing to give up?


This is an absolutely fair statement. Would either team improve? Of course, it'd be hard not to. However, what's the point for them? They're not making the playoffs and Granger could never change that. Hell, Kobe or Dwight Howard wouldn't change that either.


If you want max value from someone, you need a team that has duplicate talent at a position WE would like (so that they could trade one guy, but still maintain competitive balance), but have a hole at SF that Granger would help them improve, while being a borderline playoff team. Someone who thinks that Granger could push them right through.

In the East, Cleveland and Milwaukee could use improved play at the SF spot to make the playoffs, if they wanted to. I'm not sure Cleveland would be willing to pay anything to try and jumpstart their progression, and Milwaukee is just confusing. Utah, Minnesota, and Golden State in the West might all want jumpstarts. I'm not sure Minnesota would pay too awful much, and any package value would depend on what you thought of Beasley and Derrick Williams. For Utah, would they give up some future (Favors, Kanter, or Hayward), or even some of the present (Millsap and Jefferson)? Golden State could offer a wide variety of pieces, but nothing that seems like a perfect fit (no matter what Monta Ellis just doesn't seem like a great fit here, amiright?).


Tough spot all around. It's just about time for teams to either mail it in, or go for the playoffs. However, with us in the midst of a playoff burst as well, are we interested in even possibly moving Granger? I doubt it.
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Re: Time to trade Granger 

Post#87 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:45 am

I would bet on Danny and Paul being Pacers til the offseason at least. I could see a minor deal for a SG but nothing invovling any part of our core team.

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