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Trade Request? 

Post#1 » by Pacer_fan_101 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:29 am

Although I am new to the board I have been visiting realgm.com for a couple of years and I'm having trouble or an issue with all of these "All Star" caliber players asking for trades, or GM's wanting to trade an "All Star" Player. Is it me or are there an abundance of high profile players in trade rumors this year (Pau, Josh Smith, D. Howard, and Rondo just to name a few).

Some of these players don't want to be traded but the GM's are "Shopping" them, which I can understand because it's a business, however in the case of Rondo I don't understand. Yes he has flaws but do they really thing they can get back enough pieces to make up for what he does? And D. Howard, I like him and would love him on the Pacers but I get the feeling he wants some big blockbuster trade that equals what the Heat have. IMO whatever team he gets traded to, if he does, will end up emptying their roster just to acquire him and be left with just him and scrubs to fill out the roster and that would put him in a worse situation than he is already in.

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Post#2 » by Miller4ever » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:49 am

Dwight Howard is in a similar situation now. The team around him isn't that strong. The big-market cities can do a trade that doesn't empty out their roster, but for teams like us, we'd be better off keeping our assets and draft picks and taking the slow and steady route to getting a championship.
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Post#3 » by Indy4Life » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:42 am

Emptying our roster wouldn't be too bad if it is for the right piece.

I would gladly offer HIbbert, Granger and Collison for Howard...if he would sign long term.

Then we could focus all of our efforts on a point guard (Williams in the offseason), THen role players at the SG/SF to pair with Paul George...

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Post#4 » by Miller4ever » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:23 am

Neither Deron nor Dwight would sign here.
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Post#5 » by basketballwacko2 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:16 am

Howard will likely end up in LA with the Lakers. If the lakers will take Hedo and Duhon in the trade I'm expecting Gasol and Bynum to go to Orando with any draft picks the lakers have to send.

The wiretap says they are looking for a deal like that one for Carmello, I guess that means 3 prospects and some draft picks. Well who has that to give? Minn, OKc, Chicago,
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Post#6 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:23 pm

What prospects from Chicago do you think they can give? Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, and.....I'm drawing a blank. Those two guys are not close to either of the prospects (Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari) that Denver got in the Carmelo deal.
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Post#7 » by Moooose » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:44 pm

^^^ Noah's got to be in the deal. I doubt Chicago would be willing to risk tearing up their nucleus just to get Howard though. They're winning with what they have. Could be good for the Pacers though if they eventually end giving up way too much.
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Post#8 » by Pacer_fan_101 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:56 pm

Miller4ever wrote:Dwight Howard is in a similar situation now. The team around him isn't that strong. The big-market cities can do a trade that doesn't empty out their roster, but for teams like us, we'd be better off keeping our assets and draft picks and taking the slow and steady route to getting a championship.


Yeah but he is reported as saying his number one choice is the Nets. What do they have to trade that would leave a team there that would be better than the Magic are right now. Yes, He and Dwill together would be great but talent drops off after those two.
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Post#9 » by Boneman2 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:06 am

Orlando has waited too long. His list of preferred destinations is down to 3 teams, and they will just wait to sign him outright.
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Post#10 » by Moooose » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:47 am

I'd like to see a Nash trade to Minnesota that could possibly send Warrick or Anthony Randolph to Indiana.
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Post#11 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:22 pm

Pacer_fan_101 wrote:
Miller4ever wrote:Dwight Howard is in a similar situation now. The team around him isn't that strong. The big-market cities can do a trade that doesn't empty out their roster, but for teams like us, we'd be better off keeping our assets and draft picks and taking the slow and steady route to getting a championship.


Yeah but he is reported as saying his number one choice is the Nets. What do they have to trade that would leave a team there that would be better than the Magic are right now. Yes, He and Dwill together would be great but talent drops off after those two.


If they could pair Dwight and Deron, maybe keep an Anthony Morrow, and only carry over the bad contract of, say, Hedo Turkoglu, that's a team with 4 decent pieces (5, if they can hold onto Kris Humphries), but more importantly, that has the cap a little cleared up for the future.

Take a look at the cap for Orlando:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp

That's just insane! They've got really good money out to Turkoglu, Glen Davis, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon, and Quentin Richardson that can hamstring them. If NJ only has to eat the Turk contract (whom they could still kind of use, anyways) then they'd still be in a decent financial situation, even if they sell the farm of youth for Dwight.
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Post#12 » by geistmoney » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:24 pm

I think these are feasible trades and would help us log run.

IND TRADES: Hibbert (I don't want to pay him $13 million per year - think Nene's contract)
IND RECEIVES: Josh Smith

IND TRADES: Collison and Granger
IND RECEIVES: Rondo

Starters: Rondo, Hill, George, Smith, West.

We could then find a shoe in center and a couple offensive weapons in the off season.
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Post#13 » by Miller4ever » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:54 pm

That's a pretty small lineup. Smith I've always thought of as more of an SF. He plays PF well, but would be a nightmare at SF, and can defend the position for sure.
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Post#14 » by chube » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:55 am

I would love Josh Smith. I'm normally reluctant about sending away Granger, but I would do it in a heartbeat for Josh Smith (as long as there was some kind of reassurance that he'd be okay as a Pacer long-term since Granger is an upper echelon player who actually likes it here). A wing tandem of George and Smith? Yikes, that is a scary athletic and long perimeter duo.
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Post#15 » by Boneman2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:17 pm

geistmoney wrote:I think these are feasible trades and would help us log run.

IND TRADES: Hibbert (I don't want to pay him $13 million per year - think Nene's contract)
IND RECEIVES: Josh Smith

IND TRADES: Collison and Granger
IND RECEIVES: Rondo

Starters: Rondo, Hill, George, Smith, West.

We could then find a shoe in center and a couple offensive weapons in the off season.


I'd do Hibbert for Horford. Al is one of the toughest/strongest players in the league, in fact Roy was just holding down Al's All-star position until he retruns. Any player that is forced to play out of positon and rise to the level Al has, is special. His specialty in particular is taking on large percentages of Superman's furry. Last night resembled Superman running roughshod over a bunch of puny humans, minus one brave young lad. Whereas Horford is atleast the Hulk when compared to Superman.

I am aware we'd be sacrificing this season, which I am okay with because it looks like a simple one-and-done.

I love the DC/DG for Rondo too.

These two players (Al/Rondo) embody what Larry should be targeting, which is young hungry veterans entering their prime, locked into reasonably priced long-term deals. Hibbert has regressed so quik, and I am scared to throw such a large guarantee at what is obviously a mental lapse issue. Granger has them too. The result is a player who does not contribute in other areas if their offense isn't clicking.
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