Interesting mention of Pacer PF moves

pacers70 · Post #1 » by **pacers70** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:54 pm

I found this on hoopsrumors.com

"Kyler On Blatche, Daye, Landry, Pacers, Spurs
April 29 at 11:34am CST By Luke Adams

Andray Blatche is still being paid by the Wizards through next season, so he won't necessarily be seeking the highest salary offered this summer. However, if he can secure a multiyear deal, he may lean toward that opportunity, says Kyler
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Although he's eligible for restricted free agency, Austin Daye is unlikely to receive a qualifying offer from the Grizzlies. Kyler doesn't expect the ex-Piston to be back in Memphis next season.

Carl Landry remains likely to opt out of his last year with the Warriors in search of a longer-term contract.

The Pacers won't hold full Bird rights on David West, but West's Early Bird rights will be more than enough to make him a competitive offer. Kyler thinks West and the Pacers are likely to work out a deal fairly quickly that will keep the power forward in Indiana.
Kyler notes that trading Danny Granger would help give the Pacers the flexibility to bring back both West and Tyler Hansbrough, who is eligible for restricted free agency. Kyler expects the Pacers to issue a qualifying offer to Hansbrough and match any reasonable offer.

Antawn Jamison is unlikely to re-sign with the Lakers, and if Earl Clark returns, it will have to be for not much more than the $1.24MM he made this year, says Kyler.

Boris Diaw, who has a player option, and Matt Bonner, whose deal is only partially guaranteed, both figure to be back with the Spurs next season. However, Kyler says DeJuan Blair is "done in San Antonio," which echoes what we heard yesterday."

Post #2 » by **Jake0890** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:37 pm

Antawn Jamison - HELL NAW. He plays no defense and chucks. Never in a million years would I want him on my team at this point in his career.

Andray Blatche - Can he keep his act together? If so, maybe. But that's a big if.

Boris Diaw - I think he's a product of the system in San Antonio. I'm not sure how well he'd work here.

Earl Clark - I like him. Nice prospect, and I think he'd work well here.

Carl Landry - My first choice. We should pursue him without a doubt.

Wizop · Post #3 » by **Wizop** » Wed May 1, 2013 4:03 pm

I'm REALLY going to hate the Plumlee pick if he can't get himself into the rotation at 4 next year. He was supposed to be a Jeff Foster and Jeff played 4 as well as 5.

Post #4 » by **Jake0890** » Wed May 1, 2013 7:22 pm

Wizop wrote:I'm REALLY going to hate the Plumlee pick if he can't get himself into the rotation at 4 next year. He was supposed to be a Jeff Foster and Jeff played 4 as well as 5.

He won't be in the rotation at either position imo. With Mahinmi and Hibbert at center, he definitely won't be there. And should we re-sign West and either re-sign Hans or a different PF, he won't have room there.

Wizop · Post #5 » by **Wizop** » Wed May 1, 2013 8:53 pm

I agree he won't be better than the 3rd center. I do expect West to be resigned and agree that Plumlee will need to outplay Pendi and presumably Tyler to earn PT at 4. I agree that won't be easy but I'm hoping the chances are between slim and something rather than between slim and none. odds are though I'll just hate the pick for at least another year.

8305 · Post #6 » by **8305** » Thu May 2, 2013 4:15 am

Fully expect Pacers to aggressively peruse the re-signing of David West. But, it looks like there will be more cap space than big time talent available in this free agent class and that might mean someone throws silly money at David West. Much more than 12-13 mil per year for David and the prudent move would probably be to let him go. Painful to think about for me. I really like West.

If that scenario plays out Carl Landry could be plan B.

The Pace's bench is lousy and Tyler is part of that bench. We already have 7-8 mil/yr tied up in other under performers Green and Mahamni. Does it make sense for the Pacers to mke this weak bench even more overpaid than it is now? That doesn't make sense and I think that tells you Tyle isn't back.

Bad as this bench has been it's hard to believe that Plumlee wouldn't have at some point gotten some run if he could play. If Hansbrough is gone next season Plumlee might get more opportunity. My guess he hasn't got the skills to seize it.

laydo · Post #7 » by **laydo** » Thu May 2, 2013 8:58 am

David West is the sure answer for the Pacers at starting PF. Hope he will stay with a reasonable contract.

As for the back-up, I think Hansbrough isn't worth more than 4M/yr. Tyler plays hard, but he only product well when he's the starter. He doesn't perform that well coming off the bench. He didn't shoot mid range that often and get to the free throw line that often as he was in his 2nd year.

Carl Landry and Marreese Speights are the better, and also the more expensive options as the back-up PF than Tyler is. Both of them scores coming off the bench, play D, and can shoot at mid range.

As for the cheaper one? Brandan Wright may be the answer. He has the length for the Pacers to guard the tall PFs, such as Chris Bosh and LeMarcus Aldridge.

Going after the veteran? Jermaine O'Neal and Elton Brand could be the target. As for Antawn Jamison, though he doesn't play good defense, he provide good offense with good efficiency, which the Paers need.

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu May 2, 2013 12:24 pm

8305 wrote:Fully expect Pacers to aggressively peruse the re-signing of David West. But, it looks like there will be more cap space than big time talent available in this free agent class and that might mean someone throws silly money at David West. Much more than 12-13 mil per year for David and the prudent move would probably be to let him go. Painful to think about for me. I really like West.

If that scenario plays out Carl Landry could be plan B.

The Pace's bench is lousy and Tyler is part of that bench. We already have 7-8 mil/yr tied up in other under performers Green and Mahamni. Does it make sense for the Pacers to mke this weak bench even more overpaid than it is now? That doesn't make sense and I think that tells you Tyle isn't back.

Bad as this bench has been it's hard to believe that Plumlee wouldn't have at some point gotten some run if he could play. If Hansbrough is gone next season Plumlee might get more opportunity. My guess he hasn't got the skills to seize it.

Possibly. The thing in our favor is that West is so clearly down the list of available big men this off-season and he really can't play center. Jefferson, Millsap, and Smith are going to be the prize targets at PF. Dwight and By um are there at C and will chew up huge money on the market. I think West will either float around and hope for a huge payday, or he'll sign relatively quickly here for about the same he's been getting because he likes the situation here.

pacers70 · Post #9 » by **pacers70** » Thu May 2, 2013 1:50 pm

I agree with laydo, we need a backup PF that can play against the taller PF's in the league. Brendan Wright may be good but he has a history of injuries. Can Jason Smith play PF? The scouting report I read says he is athletic.

I also think we should bring back Pendergraph. He has shown that he can play any position on the front line at least to some degree. If a team wants to go small and put a Josh Smith at PF, Pendy is athletic enough to help out some.

We should resign West. Since Plumlee is supposed to be the next Jeff Foster and Foster is still involved with the Pacers, Foster should be working with Plumlee every day this off season. Hopefully Plumlee can improve and become close to the player Foster was.

Watching this series, I have noticed another thing I think we need to look at is a back up SF that can also play PF. If we had a healthy Granger, he could have covered Smith and Pendergraph could have given him a break. We can't count on Granger coming back so I think we need to find someone, along with Pendy that can help cover guys like Smith.

I'm thinking we should carry 6 bigs, 6 wings (including the one that can also play PF) and 2 PG's next season. We have the luxury of having Stephenson and OJ that have some experience at PG so they could help out there in an emergency.

Post #10 » by **Grang33r** » Thu May 2, 2013 6:52 pm

I would be lying if i said i wanted the Pacers to look at other options then West at the PF spot, because when he's on his game, as he was last night, he's nearly impossible to stop in our offense. However, the team needs to truly start thinking of a replacement for West. We have been real lucky with his health the last two seasons, but his long term durability needs to be questioned going forward. I know Vogel recently said Hansbourgh is a NBA-caliber starter, but i am not so sure. And Jeff Pendergraph has played well at times this season. I also think highly of Mahinmi despite his recent struggles. But, none of these guys can get to West's level IMO.

Wizop · Post #11 » by **Wizop** » Thu May 2, 2013 6:57 pm

You have to have 3 point guards although one can be a combo guard who mostly plays the SG. you are just too vulnerable to injuries or foul trouble with only two PG's. I remember a playoff series where this killed us. can't come up with the year or even the players though. I'll throw out some names and maybe someone will remember. Johnny Davis? Ricky Sobers? Haywoode Workman? Vern Flemming? definitely before Reggie. I think after Billy Knight.

now that you can activate 13, that leaves room for 5 wings that can play 2 or 3. Ideally 2 are primarly SG's, 2 are primarily SF's, and one can play either. you also need 5 bigs and it really helps if all can play center but at least 3 most be able to defend the post.