Bynum and Ian compariosn

[Pacerlive]

From PD

Claimer: Sorry this was rushed but I will try to go into as much detail as I can.

Defensively:

Ian ppp 0.85 fg% 40.2

%Time
7% Isolation 0.78 ppp
45% Post up 0.95 ppp
25.6% PnR roll man 0.82 ppp
17.8% Spot up 0.65 ppp

Rim protection via sportsvu fg% 43%

Andrew Bynum 0.77 ppp fg% 36.5%

%Time
13.6% Isolation 0.67 ppp
28.4% post up 0.64 ppp
27.3% PnR roll man 0.58 ppp
27.3% Spot up 1.13 ppp

Rim protection via sportsvu fg% 37.6%

So the glaring weakness in Bynums defense is his spot up defense. I haven't look hard at it but my guess is that he doesn't close out nearly as well as Ian but he also may just concede that shot more often to protect the paint where he sees less attempts at the rim per game than Ian and does a pretty good job at defending the rim as well.

Their perecentage of shooting fouls are about the same at around 7%.

The suprises to me are the highlighted in red and specifically the PnR defense of Bynum. Giving up 0.58 ppp is absurd and I need to look further into it and see what kind of help defense he was getting but it was most likely the typical ICE play we run with Ian.

Offensively:

I need more time but I will point out two things that probably many of you already have noticed.

Ian is a turnover machine at 20.8% while Bynum is a modest 11.3% per possession

Ian's offensive ppp is 0.75.

Bynums offensive ppp is 0.82.

The largest disparity in offensive plays is Bynum post up 58.9% to Ians 8.1%. Bynum on post ups ppp is 0.75, Ians is 0.5 ppp with a eye popping 18.2% field goal percentage.

Ian is the much better roll man on the pnr as you would expect as well as a better cutter to the basket. This is where he makes up his efficiency.

Bynum however is much better at getting to the free throw line and like I said he doesn't turn the ball over on a fifth of his possessions.

As for offensive rebounds Bynum is also better and he is also better at passing the ball.

Like many of you have said if Bynum finds his offensive mojo then this will be a slam dunk signing all things considered.

I think its obvious we got an upgrade for the backup center spot.

[EuroPacer]

Stats don't mean a thing in this case, I know Ian is an offensive black-hole, but that is the reason he doesn't get the ball a lot. Will Bynum be claiming the ball? If so, how is that going to affect our second unit? Will he clog up the lanes for Stephenson and Scola in particular? Who loses touches in that unit? Scola and Granger?

It isn't a 1/2/3 in my opinion, Bynum will have to be worked into our system, we shall see.

[Pacerlive]

Stats don't mean a thing in this case, I know Ian is an offensive black-hole, but that is the reason he doesn't get the ball a lot. Will Bynum be claiming the ball? If so, how is that going to affect our second unit? Will he clog up the lanes for Stephenson and Scola in particular? Who loses touches in that unit? Scola and Granger?

It isn't a 1/2/3 in my opinion, Bynum will have to be worked into our system, we shall see.

I see your point but defensively it does add up. Ian gets schooled in the post and Bynum doesn't. Bynum also discourages guys from driving in hence the amount of attempts are less even with more minutes.

Offensively though we are probably talking about 4 attempts per game and how much do we improve with less turn overs and better passing? Remember Ian turns over rate is 20% and his assist rate is also terrible.

[Wizop]

Ian is better at speaking French. Andrew is better at everything else.

[pacers33granger]

One thing that I think Bynum will help with is just being a big body in the paint. Ian is a big guy, but he gets by more on his athleticism and is out of position a lot. This usually leads to either a wide open basket, or a foul on the next closest pacer (usually Scola).

Not that Bynum is a smart defender, but I think now he's too big and slow to get too far out of position as long as he's in position to begin with.

[aol4532]

One thing these numbers don't show is how much effort these guys give on defense, which I estimate Bynum at 70%(including getting back on defense, which he didn't do even once), and Mahimi at 90%. Now when Mahimi gives his best effort, his defense is very good. However, as we can see last year, it wasn't enough to do anything against Lebron. and as you can see today, playing like that tends to lead to more injuries(a lot like Varejao in that regard). If Bynum goes all out, he can, no, WILL be great defensively.

It would take a combination of Hibbert, Bynum, George and Granger at full muscle mass to stop a guy like Lebron.

[Pink Panther]

Bynum has more potential, but Mahinmi has had the better career so far.

[mikepacernation]

Bynum has more potential, but Mahinmi has had the better career so far.

even with all the injuries I would still think Bynum has had the better career 2 time champ an a all star is a lot better then mahinmi average of like 3 points 3 rebounds