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Re: Lawson for Hill 

Post#21 » by 76ersfan » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:50 pm

Wow you guys so over value George Hill he's no good at all and he makes 9 million. Lawson is so much better than him. He's averaging 17-10. Im not even a Denver fan or a pacers fan but Lawson is a legit PG
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Re: Lawson for Hill 

Post#22 » by pacers33granger » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:20 pm

76ersfan wrote:Wow you guys so over value George Hill he's no good at all and he makes 9 million. Lawson is so much better than him. He's averaging 17-10. Im not even a Denver fan or a pacers fan but Lawson is a legit PG


First of all Hill is paid 8 mil straight through for this season and the next two. No raises. Lawson is paid almost 12 mil this year and in his last year will be paid over 13 mil. A 4-5 mil difference is huge for a small market team.

Second, Hill is a very good player. He's probably at least a top 5 if not top 3 PG defender and Lawson is near the bottom on defense. And Lawson is shooting poorly this year in getting those 17 points. As far as the assists, too many people put too much stock into PG assists. They depend greatly on several things such as the system, the personnel around the PG, and the home scorekeepers.

Lawson is a very good player, but he's undersized, an average shooter, poor defender, and paid quite a good deal more than Hill is. The difference in ability overall isn't that big between them.

I will never understand the idea that we need a pass first PG. One could help and I'd prefer a good backup one (someone like a prime Luke Ridnour) but even Magic Johnson wouldn't change the fact that Hibbert has bad hands and is awkward or that our system doesn't focus on the PG having a high usage rate.
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Re: Lawson for Hill 

Post#23 » by pacers33 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:05 pm

I've now learned that George Hill is the most underrated point guard in the league. Can't believe people actually think Lawson is light years ahead of him. Would rather have Hill for this Pacers team than Ty Lawson -- not only is it a bad fit, he's small, can't defend, and is use to running, and we're slow. His playmaking ability would be useless in our offense.
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Re: Lawson for Hill 

Post#24 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:56 pm

76ersfan wrote:Wow you guys so over value George Hill he's no good at all and he makes 9 million. Lawson is so much better than him. He's averaging 17-10. Im not even a Denver fan or a pacers fan but Lawson is a legit PG


Don't just look at points and assists. It's a good thing to do if you play fantasy basketball. Not so much in real life.

Lawson's a very nice offensive guard. His teams are better offensively with him on the court than off, and also better than the league average, too. However, defensively is another story. His teams are much worse off with him on the court than off, and with him on the court, his team is well below the league average defensively, too. For Indy, that's a big issue. Now, when you factor in that Ty Lawson is paid over 50% more than George Hill per year, you start to see the issue. For most teams in the league, Lawson is more useful. For Indy? It's a push. Certainly not worth paying extra for.

But with George Hill this year? We're 9-6, and he's a +65 in his 15 games this year. He's one of those guys that are really solid, and really loved by great coaches and smart GM's in the league. Not so much with fans who only look at stats. He affects games in such a massive way for Indy it just cannot easily be tracked. By himself this year, he makes us a playoff team.
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Post#25 » by Wizop » Mon Mar 2, 2015 1:46 am

Hill has led comeback. We are now 10-4 with him starting. He will not be shopped.

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