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Larry's best and worst move

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Larry's best and worst move 

Post#1 » by chube » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:41 pm

What would you say, what are Larry's best and worst move? (Really, 2nd best move since #1 should be drafting Paul George.)

Best: The David West signing. Was exactly what the team needed as a positional player and vocal leader.

Worst: Parting ways with Vogel, especially since the reason was "a new voice" yet he just bumped everyone up a chair. (I thought about the Granger trade, but on paper from a business perspective, it made some sense at the time.)


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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#2 » by tocooks101 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:44 pm

Agree for the Worst.

As for the best, IDK drafting PG and Lance should be up there. Trading Jermaine O'neal to the raptors for Hibbert and TJ Ford, West signing, take your pick he was on fire for a few years there.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#3 » by Jermainevent » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:00 pm

Drafting Paul George or signing David West have to be the best moves.

Worst, plenty to choose from. Drafting Shawne Williams instead of Rajon Rando or Kyle Lowry. Taking Hansbrough instead of Teague or Holiday in 2010.

Trading Leonard for George Hill.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#4 » by Pacersike » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:52 am

Drafting Paul George the best for me.

Worst, lot's of possibilities. Keeping Granger and Hibbert till their value was gone.
Drafting Hansbrough over Teague, Holiday, Lawson, Collison.
Drafting low. The Pacers just never seem to pick a player late that stays around. Nor do they have any idea who the good Euros are.
Al Jefferson. Doesn't fit a running team at all and he is just another player who needs to touch the ball to be effective.
Letting Vogel walk was a good move, not even bothering to interview other candidates besides Nate, was a bad move.
Letting go of Solo, Mahinmi, GH3, replacing them with worse defenders while saying Dan Burke is a defensive wizard, he will fix the mess I made.

But the worst has to be that he was too stubborn to learn how to become a modern GM. He demands his players to learn things they aren't ment to be doing, like Paul George playing the 4, but nobody was allowed to tell him that he should be learning new things and stop being so much oldschool. You don't throw players and coach with talent together on a pile and pray it works.
Thats was his biggest mistake, because all things considered he was a pretty good GM with an eye for special players and he kept the Pacers in the playoffs for the majority of his time as GM, only a freak injury of PG and the brawl messing up his main objective.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#5 » by pacers33granger » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:43 pm

Drafting Hansbrough over a bunch of good pgs when we desperately needed a pg was probably his worst move even if I did come to like Psycho T.

It didn't have a huge affect by any means, but I still think giving up cap space and trading a good shooter on a cheap deal for Chase Budinger has to be up there for worst. There was literally no way to frame that move as good. He just handed millions to a non-NBA player for no good reason.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#6 » by Grang33r » Sun May 21, 2017 6:08 am

Drafting Hansbrough was def his worst. I won't ever forget how upset i was that night and the arguments that followed on realgm were crazy, because it seemed there was no middle ground. Either posters liked the pick or hated it.

He was an excellent talent evaluator though. PG at 10, Stephenson at 40, AJ Price in the second round was a nice find, Turner at 11, and obviously too early to call yet but looks like GR3 was a nice pickup as well.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#7 » by Miller4ever » Thu May 25, 2017 5:51 pm

Drafting Lance Stephenson was the best because of how crazy the value was for how small the asset.

The worst was the Monta Ellis signing because holy crap that was a lot of money and he is straight garbo now.
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Re: Larry's best and worst move 

Post#8 » by glasket » Sun May 28, 2017 2:43 am

Best - drafting PG and then David West signing

Worst - trading Kawhi Leonard. Many see this as a win win and yes George Hill was good for us but not as good as Leonard. Oils have been. Imagine a lineup wwith him and PG


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