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Game Thread 03/05: Pacers vs. Bucks

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Re: Game Thread 03/05: Pacers vs. Bucks 

Post#41 » by boomershadow » Wed Mar 7, 2018 11:20 am

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Topofthekey wrote:Pacers got lucky that Bogie had the hot hand this game.

As good as he is, Vic is still just one man, and more often than not Pacers lose when he is having an off night. That's why I've been saying one of the biggest need for Pacers right now is a second consistent 20ppg scorer to play alongside Vic. Doesn't need to be an elite superstar level type of talent, just someone good enough to shoulder the burden when Vic is out or resting.

I'm more or less convinced now that AG is going to be a great get for the Pacers in the FA. He's pretty good at cutting to the basket, and Vic's pretty good at finding his teammates when the defense coalesces on him. AG can be the second 20ppg scorer that Pacers need, plus he can be extremely active on the tip ins, so if you consider a tip in an offensive rebound, then AG also helps with another area that Pacers need help in, which is rebounding


Doesn't every team want to find a second consistent 20ppg scorer? They don't exactly grow on trees. I mean there is currently only 24 players in the NBA averaging over 20 points. I'm sure the Pacers would love to add another 20 ppg scorer. I'm sure everyone in the NBA would (minus GS and maybe Hou).


It's true that 20ppg doesn't grow on trees, but we're currently watering and fertilizing Myles Turner and hoping by the time he's 25 he might grow into an 18/10 kinda guy. It almost gets overstated how young he is, but that's only because we're getting a bit impatient with him. Oladipo at the same age was a 13.8ppg rookie, and he seems to be turning out okay :D

I'd love to hit a home run via FA, and Aaron Gordon is a player I really like and want to take a look at, but RFA is tricky. It's a narrow ledge to walk. On one side there's overpaying for mediocre talent, and on the other side there's finding the guy you want and having his team match your offer and you get nothing. And I do think Orlando would be crazy not to match. They don't really have any other nail to hang their hopes on.
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Re: Game Thread 03/05: Pacers vs. Bucks 

Post#42 » by pepe1991 » Wed Mar 7, 2018 1:20 pm

Topofthekey wrote:Pacers got lucky that Bogie had the hot hand this game.

As good as he is, Vic is still just one man, and more often than not Pacers lose when he is having an off night. That's why I've been saying one of the biggest need for Pacers right now is a second consistent 20ppg scorer to play alongside Vic. Doesn't need to be an elite superstar level type of talent, just someone good enough to shoulder the burden when Vic is out or resting.

I'm more or less convinced now that AG is going to be a great get for the Pacers in the FA. He's pretty good at cutting to the basket, and Vic's pretty good at finding his teammates when the defense coalesces on him. AG can be the second 20ppg scorer that Pacers need, plus he can be extremely active on the tip ins, so if you consider a tip in an offensive rebound, then AG also helps with another area that Pacers need help in, which is rebounding



Magic actually have 3 player on 17 -18 ppg ,and we are bottom of nba. Him ,Vučević and Evan Fournier.
Most better players can score 15-20 ppg if you give them enough shots and ignore efficiency.
Gordon started season smoking hot but plays like hot garbage for months now.
His 3 point percentage dropped from 47% to 34% and in 2018 he is shooting 24% for 3. In general, he could be cutter who ends easy plays ,but for now, he prefers to be guy who takes 10 dribbles and shoots bad ,contested jumper. It shows in his effective field goal percentage, where he is ranked 10# among Magic players despite being human pogo stick who can dunk over building . His defense in man to man is really good but his team defense and effort level to do dirty walk is medicore to say least.

BUT since Magic have literally no talent they will max him out.
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Re: Game Thread 03/05: Pacers vs. Bucks 

Post#43 » by Pacers_Freak » Wed Mar 7, 2018 2:00 pm

Topofthekey wrote:Maybe saying "20ppg" is a bit too specific. After all, AG is only currently averaging (*checks stats quickly*) 18ppg, so he is technically not a "20ppg" kind of player. But I think the context of what I was saying should be pretty clear, as in a second potent scorer who the defense has to deal with on a nightly basis, that's what the Pacers need now. Contrary to what another poster mentioned, a lot of the playoff teams actually do have such talent currently: Blazers with Dame and CJ, Pelicans with AD and Jrue, Wolves with KAT and Butler, Spurs with Kawhi and Aldrige, Cavs with LeBron and Love, Wizards with Beal and Wall, Raptors with Derozan and Lowry, etc. You get the picture. Even though some of those names are averaging less than 20ppg, you can fully expect any one of them to blow up for more than 20pts if the opponent isn't careful.

With the Pacers, when Vic has an off night, we see the entire team struggling to score. It's quite clear to me Pacers need a second potent scorer.

And although Pacers do have a few players capable of having the hot hand and turn in huge scoring games, when they do that it's more of the exception rather than the expected norm


I get what you're saying. My point is it isn't so easy to find that 2nd guy. You keep talking about Gordon.... I'm 99.9% sure Orlando would match an offer.
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Re: Game Thread 03/05: Pacers vs. Bucks 

Post#44 » by Wizop » Wed Mar 7, 2018 3:08 pm

Pacers_Freak wrote:I get what you're saying. My point is it isn't so easy to find that 2nd guy. You keep talking about Gordon.... I'm 99.9% sure Orlando would match an offer.


I have zero interest in paying Gordon more than Victor.
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