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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#21 » by Vorda » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:22 am

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I’m on with starting Thad. Generally, guys over 30 play better starting (warmed up and whatnot) than coming off the bench. I just would prefer that Thad would get the early pull to the bench most times along with Collison.


Also, I’m not worried about the early shooting slump for Collison. It will bounce back to the neighborhood of his career averages, which is fine. I’m more concerned with his hesitancy and indecisiveness so far this year. If that’s how he’s gonna okay, we may need Holiday sooner than later.


Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#22 » by Pacers_Freak » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:50 pm

Vorda wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Miller4ever wrote:#startsabonisandturnertogether


I’m on with starting Thad. Generally, guys over 30 play better starting (warmed up and whatnot) than coming off the bench. I just would prefer that Thad would get the early pull to the bench most times along with Collison.


Also, I’m not worried about the early shooting slump for Collison. It will bounce back to the neighborhood of his career averages, which is fine. I’m more concerned with his hesitancy and indecisiveness so far this year. If that’s how he’s gonna okay, we may need Holiday sooner than later.


Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D


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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#23 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:15 pm

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Miller4ever wrote:#startsabonisandturnertogether


I’m on with starting Thad. Generally, guys over 30 play better starting (warmed up and whatnot) than coming off the bench. I just would prefer that Thad would get the early pull to the bench most times along with Collison.


Also, I’m not worried about the early shooting slump for Collison. It will bounce back to the neighborhood of his career averages, which is fine. I’m more concerned with his hesitancy and indecisiveness so far this year. If that’s how he’s gonna okay, we may need Holiday sooner than later.


Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D


For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#24 » by Vorda » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 pm

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I’m on with starting Thad. Generally, guys over 30 play better starting (warmed up and whatnot) than coming off the bench. I just would prefer that Thad would get the early pull to the bench most times along with Collison.


Also, I’m not worried about the early shooting slump for Collison. It will bounce back to the neighborhood of his career averages, which is fine. I’m more concerned with his hesitancy and indecisiveness so far this year. If that’s how he’s gonna okay, we may need Holiday sooner than later.


Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D


For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.


For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#25 » by Jake0890 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:59 pm

Vorda wrote:
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Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D


For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.


For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...


The best defender on the team isnt useful?
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#26 » by Pacers_Freak » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:06 pm

Vorda wrote:
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Vorda wrote:
Or, we can finnaly trade that limited player... :D


For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.


For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...


If he's old and unuseful as you say.... why would anyone give up a pick for him? Doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#27 » by Vorda » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:10 pm

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Vorda wrote:
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For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.


For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...


The best defender on the team isnt useful?


CoJo and Dipo are better defenders...
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#28 » by Vorda » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:17 pm

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For what. More limited players than him? He’s flawed, but less flawed than whomever we could sign or trade him for.


For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...


If he's old and unuseful as you say.... why would anyone give up a pick for him? Doesn't make any sense.


For Indy is... on the other side Suns dont have starting PG... maybe they could give some pick for him...
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#29 » by Pacers_Freak » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:23 pm

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Pacers_Freak wrote:
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For pick... He probably will not be here next season... he is old and unusefull... I would rather see Sumner and Holiday.... 6 points and 4 asists can have anyone...


If he's old and unuseful as you say.... why would anyone give up a pick for him? Doesn't make any sense.


For Indy is... on the other side Suns dont have starting PG... maybe they could give some pick for him...


They are young too. So why would they want an "old and unuseful" guy. The logic makes no sense.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#30 » by Vorda » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:43 pm

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If he's old and unuseful as you say.... why would anyone give up a pick for him? Doesn't make any sense.


For Indy is... on the other side Suns dont have starting PG... maybe they could give some pick for him...


They are young too. So why would they want an "old and unuseful" guy. The logic makes no sense.


They have to many young players... they need some experiance in team.. DC would be good fit for them..

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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#31 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:06 pm

I would have to see Holliday/Sumner prove to be at least solid backup level at least before moving either of Collison or Joseph. We’re far from that thus far. As it is, Collison is still the best win now option we have right now, so I’m not sure we would “give up” on the season so early when Lebron is finally out of the east and it’s up for grabs.
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Post#32 » by Wizop » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:41 pm

I'd trade a lot for Jimmy Butler but Collison probably wouldn't interest MN as they have Teague.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#33 » by boomershadow » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:00 pm

Wizop wrote:I'd trade a lot for Jimmy Butler but Collison probably wouldn't interest MN as they have Teague.


Minnesota plays Teague and Rose together a bit. That lineup makes me scratch my head.

The Collison bashing last year was way off the mark in my opinion, but there's no denying he has looked a bit off for the start of this season. Hopefully it's just some rust that will shake off after a few more games.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#34 » by Pacers_Freak » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Wizop wrote:I'd trade a lot for Jimmy Butler but Collison probably wouldn't interest MN as they have Teague.


I wouldn’t trade a lot. I love Jimmy’s game. But he would be gone the minute the season was over.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#35 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:11 pm

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Wizop wrote:I'd trade a lot for Jimmy Butler but Collison probably wouldn't interest MN as they have Teague.


I wouldn’t trade a lot. I love Jimmy’s game. But he would be gone the minute the season was over.


Honestly, if we’d be willing to pay his 5 year max, he’d stick around. I think he’s going to stay wherever he’s traded as long as it’s a win now attitude team (which we are and would be), and they pay his 5 year max $190m contract.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#36 » by Wizop » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:21 pm

Honestly, if we’d be willing to pay his 5 year max, he’d stick around. I think he’s going to stay wherever he’s traded as long as it’s a win now attitude team (which we are and would be), and they pay his 5 year max $190m contract.


I don't know what we have to excite MN other than we're in the East. I think they want more than expiring contracts. now if MN holds onto him and he becomes a free agent next summer ...

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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#37 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:27 pm

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Honestly, if we’d be willing to pay his 5 year max, he’d stick around. I think he’s going to stay wherever he’s traded as long as it’s a win now attitude team (which we are and would be), and they pay his 5 year max $190m contract.


I don't know what we have to excite MN other than we're in the East. I think they want more than expiring contracts. now if MN holds onto him and he becomes a free agent next summer ...

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There’s a chance that Thibs would value more of our win now expirings in Bogs/Collison than what else he’s offered. Either Collison or Teague would have to be routed somewhere like Phoenix for additional value though. Add in a 1st, and it’s probably closer than many would imagine, or at least better than what else is out there.
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Re: Game Thread 10/24: Pacers vs. Spurs 

Post#38 » by Wizop » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:48 pm

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There’s a chance that Thibs would value more of our win now expirings in Bogs/Collison than what else he’s offered. Either Collison or Teague would have to be routed somewhere like Phoenix for additional value though. Add in a 1st, and it’s probably closer than many would imagine, or at least better than what else is out there.


Butler isn't as expensive as I assumed. Bogie and CoJo is enough to match. it only takes two of our expiring deals and we'd want to include Bogie as Butler would start at 3. Young would also be an option.

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