GR3 is available once again

[HurricaneDij25]

Waived by Sacramento. He would provide us something we didn’t already have without LeVert and Warren in the lineup - Size on the perimeter.

[HurricaneDij25]

He’d at least be a better option that the dead wood we currently have stored on our bench for which Coach B has no interest in using...

[Scoot McGroot]

GR3 is the same size or smaller than Brogdon, Justin, Kelan, Lamb, Bowen, Stanley, and Doug. Jakarr is only 6’7”, too. I like GR3, but not sure I see a use for him in the roster and I’m not sure that Nate would be more willing to use him than the guys already on the roster. Remember, GR3 signed after a Kelan did, and for less guaranteed money. Apparently, we liked Kelan more. Plus, it’s not like Glenn is a defensive player. You get him to play some low level offense off the bench, and he’s pretty much a lesser Lamb in that regard, in terms of fit and usage.

But yeah, GR3 shouldn’t sit in free agency long. Someone should use him. And man, I’d love to see Nate either actually use his bench or address publicly why he was wrong about his wanting to use a deep roster and bench when he was hired.

[Pacers_Freak]

I've always been a GR3 fan. However, I think that if we are making any moves in free agency it is to help the front court.

[Topofthekey]

GR3 is a nice player to have on the bench. But I don't think he'd be more useful than who the team already has

There's seriously untapped potential in Goga and Sumner

Goga looked lost in the first game or two he played this season, but he progressively looked a lot better as he got accustomed to playing. I imagine he'd only keep improving if given the chance to play a consistent role

Sumner is a high energy athletic guy who can sub in and either disrupt the opponent's rhythm a bit by pressuring their ball handler, or catch the opponent unaware and score a few quick easy baskets and spark a run

I don't know why Bjorkgren is so conservative with his lineup. With two starters out for extended periods of time, this should have been a time to experiment and let the 2nd and 3rd tier players on the team get a bit of exposure, to see what they can do

It's one thing if the Pacers are sitting on top of the standings and are trying to make a championship run this year. But Pacers are currently a middle of the pack team, there's really no reason to not go prospecting

[Scoot McGroot]

I guess, hypothetically, Nate is really playing a 10 man rotation, it’s just that Levert and Warren are out long-term. But still, yeah, I’d love to see us really focus on developing Aaron/Goga/Sumner this part of the season. Doesn’t have to be a bench the starters type of thing, but getting Ed and Goga 8-12 minutes reliably a night would be HUGE. I get the leaning on Sabonis, Brogdon, and McConnell hard, but seems like each guy could give up 5 minutes most nights. Siphon a couple from the rest of the guys here and there, and you’ve got some time to play with.

[Topofthekey]

Instead of giving the team plenty of rest so that he can lean on his starters more, he really should be doing the opposite

Schedule some practices here and there to get the team accustomed to playing with each other, and then playing his starters a more lenient 30-32mpg on game days and letting the bench pick up the rest of the slack

[Topofthekey]

Even if playing the bench is going to cost the team a few games here and there, that's still a small price to pay for the development of the team's 3rd tier players

And even in the worse case scenario that the Pacers ended up as the 10th seed and missed the playoffs, is that the end of the world?

With two starters out most of the season, this is always going to be a gap year for the team anyway. And who knows, maybe Pacers even get lucky and win the lottery

It's annoying when others say it, but Pacers really is playing like they are a first round exit team. Scrap together as many wins as they can, make the playoffs, and hope that they don't get totally outmatched in the first round. Pretty much exactly how all first round exit teams operate

[Scoot McGroot]

Even if playing the bench is going to cost the team a few games here and there, that's still a small price to pay for the development of the team's 3rd tier players

And even in the worse case scenario that the Pacers ended up as the 10th seed and missed the playoffs, is that the end of the world?

With two starters out most of the season, this is always going to be a gap year for the team anyway. And who knows, maybe Pacers even get lucky and win the lottery

It's annoying when others say it, but Pacers really is playing like they are a first round exit team. Scrap together as many wins as they can, make the playoffs, and hope that they don't get totally outmatched in the first round. Pretty much exactly how all first round exit teams operate

10th seed still gets the play in games for the playoff now.

[Topofthekey]

Yes. I was saying if they missed the playoffs still

[Scoot McGroot]

Yes. I was saying if they missed the playoffs still

Oh, I was just commenting that 10th seed wouldn't even really be missing the playoffs, as you could win 2 games to get into the playoffs.

[pacers33granger]

I guess, hypothetically, Nate is really playing a 10 man rotation, it’s just that Levert and Warren are out long-term. But still, yeah, I’d love to see us really focus on developing Aaron/Goga/Sumner this part of the season. Doesn’t have to be a bench the starters type of thing, but getting Ed and Goga 8-12 minutes reliably a night would be HUGE. I get the leaning on Sabonis, Brogdon, and McConnell hard, but seems like each guy could give up 5 minutes most nights. Siphon a couple from the rest of the guys here and there, and you’ve got some time to play with.

Tbf Aaron has been pretty bad all year and has still gotten good minutes. Goga seems to be more situational and I wonder if he just hasn't gotten it yet (he had been visibly lost a bunch of times on offense). Sumner is the one I expected to see more time but perhaps it's just an issue of two different staffs now not liking what they're seeing.

That just leaves Jakarr and Martin for the typically active roster and neither would see the floor in an ideal situation.

If we ever get healthy Aaron and Lambs minutes are likely to dwindle.

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[pacers33granger]

And GR3 honestly just isn't very good. Better than Martin, but meh. Plus there were still some minor character concerns I believe in his last few stops.

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[HurricaneDij25]

GR3 is the same size or smaller than Brogdon, Justin, Kelan, Lamb, Bowen, Stanley, and Doug. Jakarr is only 6’7”, too. I like GR3, but not sure I see a use for him in the roster and I’m not sure that Nate would be more willing to use him than the guys already on the roster. Remember, GR3 signed after a Kelan did, and for less guaranteed money. Apparently, we liked Kelan more. Plus, it’s not like Glenn is a defensive player. You get him to play some low level offense off the bench, and he’s pretty much a lesser Lamb in that regard, in terms of fit and usage.

But yeah, GR3 shouldn’t sit in free agency long. Someone should use him. And man, I’d love to see Nate either actually use his bench or address publicly why he was wrong about his wanting to use a deep roster and bench when he was hired.

The only guy on your “list” that’s legitimately bigger than GR3 is Doug, and I personally view him as more of a small ball four than a true wing.

The closest thing we got to a backup wing is Sumner, and I’m just not sure Bjorkgren likes the guy. He has barely played prior to the last four games, and at this point I have no idea if we’re going to pick up his option. I’ve got to say that the coaching change has not paid dividends, as Nate B has nothing but turned Aaron Holiday into CoJo Cory Joseph - An uninspiring reserve with low upside.

Right now this roster is simply not good enough, in spite of how few games behind we are for first round HCA. We need to be able to build a supporting cast for next year and shut down T.J. for the season. We need him at his best next year in a contract year.

[Scoot McGroot]

GR3 is the same size or smaller than Brogdon, Justin, Kelan, Lamb, Bowen, Stanley, and Doug. Jakarr is only 6’7”, too. I like GR3, but not sure I see a use for him in the roster and I’m not sure that Nate would be more willing to use him than the guys already on the roster. Remember, GR3 signed after a Kelan did, and for less guaranteed money. Apparently, we liked Kelan more. Plus, it’s not like Glenn is a defensive player. You get him to play some low level offense off the bench, and he’s pretty much a lesser Lamb in that regard, in terms of fit and usage.

But yeah, GR3 shouldn’t sit in free agency long. Someone should use him. And man, I’d love to see Nate either actually use his bench or address publicly why he was wrong about his wanting to use a deep roster and bench when he was hired.

The only guy on your “list” that’s legitimately bigger than GR3 is Doug, and I personally view him as more of a small ball four than a true wing.

The closest thing we got to a backup wing is Sumner, and I’m just not sure Bjorkgren likes the guy. He has barely played prior to the last four games, and at this point I have no idea if we’re going to pick up his option. I’ve got to say that the coaching change has not paid dividends, as Nate B has nothing but turned Aaron Holiday into CoJo Cory Joseph - An uninspiring reserve with low upside.

Right now this roster is simply not good enough, in spite of how few games behind we are for first round HCA. We need to be able to build a supporting cast for next year and shut down T.J. for the season. We need him at his best next year in a contract year.

Doug hasn’t ever played the 4, so he’s not really a small ball 4. Justin played it last year, and even Lamb is playing it (poorly) this year. Realistically, we have a ton of backup wings. They’re just temporarily starting with Levert and Warren out. So, Justin, Doug, Lamb, Sumner, Aaron, and Martin, all backing up Warren and Levert. We could make a move now, but I don’t know that GR3 would have interest. He was upset to be dealt to Philly last year and have a backup spot, so he’d probably despise being 3rd string/emergency, which is what we’re realistically talking about. Levert is supposed to be back soon. Warren’s injury is also not one that we have to shut him down for. Once it’s healed, it’s healed. No extra rest will “extra heal” it, and realistically, you’re just asking guys to give up and tank, when we’re having our run of bad play earlier than we usually do. McMillan had one of these bad long runs every year, it was just usually in April into May. If we can figure this out and move ahead we’ll be ok.

As for Sumner, he was the first guy off the bench in Cleveland, so seems like he’s earning Nate’s trust.

[Tom White]

I'll just say that there are probably multiple reasons why GR is available instead of being viewed as an important piece to his team.