Oladipo Trade Ideas

[Wizop]

I actually like Kuz lol. I don't think he has put it all together yet, but I he will.

I do too. I think he's the kind of mobile 4 that could come off our bench and play with Turner or Sabonis when the other is resting. He probably thinks he's better than a 6th man though.

[Scoot McGroot]

I actually like Kuz lol. I don't think he has put it all together yet, but I he will.

I do too. I think he's the kind of mobile 4 that could come off our bench and play with Turner or Sabonis when the other is resting. He probably thinks he's better than a 6th man though.

He’s the same size as TJ Warren and doesn’t play any more physical than him or better defense than Warren. I just think if we’re going to go in that style, we should go with the better option and just play Warren at the 4 and get a good player on the wings instead of an ok player that is liked because he’s labeled as a 4.

[Wizop]

He’s the same size as TJ Warren and doesn’t play any more physical than him or better defense than Warren. I just think if we’re going to go in that style, we should go with the better option and just play Warren at the 4 and get a good player on the wings instead of an ok player that is liked because he’s labeled as a 4.

I don't see that. Warren is a starter at 3 and probably needs to rest at the same time that either Turner or Sabonis are also resting. I think we need to upgrade Sampson. maybe Alize is the answer. I don't think it's Leaf or Goga as I see them as 5's. I can see buying a draft pick for a rotation 4 because I doubt we'll have free agent money available for more than a veteran minimum and that may not get it done.

I mention Kuzma only in the event that Victor forces a trade and LA turns out to be a destination he accepts in the West.

[Scoot McGroot]

He’s the same size as TJ Warren and doesn’t play any more physical than him or better defense than Warren. I just think if we’re going to go in that style, we should go with the better option and just play Warren at the 4 and get a good player on the wings instead of an ok player that is liked because he’s labeled as a 4.

I don't see that. Warren is a starter at 3 and probably needs to rest at the same time that either Turner or Sabonis are also resting. I think we need to upgrade Sampson. maybe Alize is the answer. I don't think it's Leaf or Goga as I see them as 5's. I can see buying a draft pick for a rotation 4 because I doubt we'll have free agent money available for more than a veteran minimum and that may not get it done.

I mention Kuzma only in the event that Victor forces a trade and LA turns out to be a destination he accepts in the West.

You’d deal Oladipo to simply upgrade on Sampson at the backup 4?

[Wizop]

You’d deal Oladipo to simply upgrade on Sampson at the backup 4?

of course not. I don't deal Oladipo at all unless he forces it and if he does I try to send him West. I'd want an upgraded backup 4 in the package but there better be a whole lot more or he can just walk as a free agent. I'm not sure what losing him for nothing means for a team close to the cap as losing 20mm in salary provides options.

[Scoot McGroot]

You’d deal Oladipo to simply upgrade on Sampson at the backup 4?

of course not. I don't deal Oladipo at all unless he forces it and if he does I try to send him West. I'd want an upgraded backup 4 in the package but there better be a whole lot more or he can just walk as a free agent. I'm not sure what losing him for nothing means for a team close to the cap as losing 20mm in salary provides options.

Ah. I was confused as Kuzma would clearly be the centerpiece for any Lakers offer, since they have essentially all their future 1sts locked up and have essentially no one else on rookie contracts or even value contracts.

[Wizop]

Time to put aside all the trade talk and wait for hints from Bjorkgren.

[Wizop]

a good summary from The Ringer

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/10/20/21525432/indiana-pacers-victor-oladipo-nate-bjorkgren

[Scoot McGroot]

a good summary from The Ringer

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/10/20/21525432/indiana-pacers-victor-oladipo-nate-bjorkgren

Sure. It’s a pretty standard Dan Devine column. Hot takes from a quick glance. Per 36 stars when it suits an argument but per game stats when that would suit his argument too.

[TylersLakers]

He’s the same size as TJ Warren and doesn’t play any more physical than him or better defense than Warren. I just think if we’re going to go in that style, we should go with the better option and just play Warren at the 4 and get a good player on the wings instead of an ok player that is liked because he’s labeled as a 4.

I don't see that. Warren is a starter at 3 and probably needs to rest at the same time that either Turner or Sabonis are also resting. I think we need to upgrade Sampson. maybe Alize is the answer. I don't think it's Leaf or Goga as I see them as 5's. I can see buying a draft pick for a rotation 4 because I doubt we'll have free agent money available for more than a veteran minimum and that may not get it done.

I mention Kuzma only in the event that Victor forces a trade and LA turns out to be a destination he accepts in the West.

From the eye test, Kuzma's best at a wing position. Defensively, he's pretty good chasing perimeter players. Struggles with size and physicality, which is why he was god awful as a small ball C in the first year of LeBron as a Laker.

And for the other poster who questioned Oladipo and LeBron's fit, I think it would work. The Lakers need someone (anyone) who can create off the dribble other than LeBron and Davis. We struck lightning in a bottle with Rondo during the playoffs. Because up until then, Rondo was garbage. So much so that we tried to convince Darren Collison to come out of retirement halfway through the season.

Very interested to see what you guys do.

[Lazlo4D]

For all this dubious sand-bagging of Oladipo's value. Just a reminder, teams are absolutely desperate for a chance at getting a star player who is a closer.

Remember:

This year, the Nets gave Kevin Durant, 32yo, with a blown Achilles over $ 38M not to play this year ( 4 years @ $ 164M, last year player option). If he leaves after 3 years, the Nets will have paid him $ 120M for 2 seasons of play, at most.

For one season "rental" of A.D. guaranteed. The Lakers traded: 2019 #4 overall FRP, FRP's in 2021 or 2022, 2023 FRP Swaps, FRP's in 2024 or 2025, AND Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, & Josh Hart.

For only 2 seasons of Paul George guaranteed (who twice couldn't get OKC past the 1st round of the playoffs). The Clippers traded their own FRP's 2022, 2024 & 2026, FRP pick swaps in 2023 & 2025, Miami's FRP's in 2021 & 2023, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander & Danilo Gallinari.

[Grang33r]

Someone is gonna fleece us and get Dipo for cheap. Latest rumor i've seen from Zach Lowe was to keep eyes on the Milwaukee Bucks as a trade partner for Dipo. Besides Donte DiVincenzo, who else do they have that would make us better (that they would be willing to trade?).

[MUpacersSIC]

Someone is gonna fleece us and get Dipo for cheap. Latest rumor i've seen from Zach Lowe was to keep eyes on the Milwaukee Bucks as a trade partner for Dipo. Besides Donte DiVincenzo, who else do they have that would make us better (that they would be willing to trade?).

I think that would likely be a three team deal if Milwaukee was involved.

[Vorda]

Bucks dont have anything to offer for Vic... Indy doesnt need Bledsoe or Lopez...

Better option for Vic are Nets… we could take LeVert and Harris...

[Pacers_Freak]

Bucks dont have anything to offer for Vic... Indy doesnt need Bledsoe or Lopez...

Better option for Vic are Nets… we could take LeVert and Harris...

I believe Harris is a FA. Vorda good to hear from ya. Hope you're well!

[Wizop]

Time to put aside all the trade talk and wait for hints from Bjorkgren.

I feel even stronger about this after listening to the introductory press conference. we're not blowing up the roster.

[Wizop]

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[dalton749]

How would pacers fans feel about this return for Oladipo (assets coming from Toronto and Philly):

Powell
McCaw
Thybulle
#21

Now that Nate is the coach in Indy, having a few Raptors players join the team with him could be a huge benefit and Powell looks every bit ready for an Oladipo-like breakout when he joined Indy a few years ago. The comparison is actually shockingly close: https://stathead.com/tiny/GG4Df
Powell is a little older than Oladipo was but Oladipo had been given a lot more opportunity up until that point.
The alternative would be flipping Powell for Levert as Powell would be an upgrade in Brooklyn in the sg role between Kyrie & KD and Levert would offer more shot creation.

[Wizop]

How would pacers fans feel about this return.

I can't imagine we'd trade any of our starters for another team's backups.

[dalton749]

How would pacers fans feel about this return.

I can't imagine we'd trade any of our starters for another team's backups.

Powell is clearly a starting level player. 19/4/2 on 63 ts% (31 mpg) in 26 games as a starter last year. He’s been stuck behind derozan, Danny green and then van vleet last year due to contract politics. He’s earned a starting spot somewhere.