Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread

[Scoot McGroot]

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I would assume this isn't a "hey we're trading you" talk, but more a "hey, I know you're hearing your name out there, and here's what's happening..."

[ReggiesKnicks]

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I would assume this isn't a "hey we're trading you" talk, but more a "hey, I know you're hearing your name out there, and here's what's happening..."

"hey, I know you're hearing your name out there, and here's what's happening...we signed you for too many years"

[Scoot McGroot]

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I would assume this isn't a "hey we're trading you" talk, but more a "hey, I know you're hearing your name out there, and here's what's happening..."

"hey, I know you're hearing your name out there, and here's what's happening...we signed you for too many years"

Sure, but it works out for Obi, too. He was probably signed to ensure that we had sufficient PF coverage while Jarace came along, and Jarace is starting to come along. Plus, Thomas Bryant now brings a lot of the similar offensive bursts and energy play from the bug spots, but he can comfortably play center. It just is what it is.

[8305]

With the crazy stuff going on in Dallas might the Pacers be willing to move Turner and a couple other contracts for Anthony Davis?
Say Turner, Toppin and Mathurin?

[boomershadow]

Id rather keep everyone together and figure out next year's money 9lin the off-season, but i can see why it might not work out like that.

[boomershadow]

Id rather keep everyone together and figure out next year's money 9lin the off-season, but i can see why it might not work out like that.

[ReggiesKnicks]

With the crazy stuff going on in Dallas might the Pacers be willing to move Turner and a couple other contracts for Anthony Davis?
Say Turner, Toppin and Mathurin?

We would need to give up either Siakam or Haliburton, unfortunately.

[JMaster5K]

With the crazy stuff going on in Dallas might the Pacers be willing to move Turner and a couple other contracts for Anthony Davis?
Say Turner, Toppin and Mathurin?

We would need to give up either Siakam or Haliburton, unfortunately.

If we traded Turner, Toppin, & Nesmith = 43,903,500
AD salary = 43,219,440
(AD can't be aggregated with another for trade purposes until April - after the deadline, so after the season.) Though Dallas could put in more salary, we would just have to take it in another way,.. not through aggregation.

So,.. theoretically doable,.. BUT,... that would put Dallas 55,911 into the tax which they aren't likely to do, and it would put us 831,395 under the tax with a roster spots that has to be filled to get us back to the league minimum,... which we aren't likely to do.

If we put in more money, so that Dallas stays out of the tax, then we go further into the tax to fill that second needed roster spot. (We are past the general salary guarantee date for this season.)

I don't even want to think of the negotiations over who should be getting the draft picks on this one?..... =/

or the negotiations with AD suggesting that he really IS a center for the Pacers,... nor the overlap on the floor between AD & Pascal, and whom the team would run post or P&R offense through?

So, theoretically for laughs,... it could be possible,... reality, don't think either team would really consider it? (Actually, I hope and pray, the Pacers wouldn't consider it!)

8305,...So, I guess, I think you are correct. For this to happen, we would have to move Pascal. Otherwise their would be huge on court implications & complications. Frankly, I'd rather have Pascal. But, that could just be me?....

[ReggiesKnicks]

With the crazy stuff going on in Dallas might the Pacers be willing to move Turner and a couple other contracts for Anthony Davis?
Say Turner, Toppin and Mathurin?

We would need to give up either Siakam or Haliburton, unfortunately.

If we traded Turner, Toppin, & Nesmith = 43,903,500
AD salary = 43,219,440
(AD can't be aggregated with another for trade purposes until April - after the deadline, so after the season.) Though Dallas could put in more salary, we would just have to take it in another way,.. not through aggregation.

So,.. theoretically doable,.. BUT,... that would put Dallas 55,911 into the tax which they aren't likely to do, and it would put us 831,395 under the tax with a roster spots that has to be filled to get us back to the league minimum,... which we aren't likely to do.

If we put in more money, so that Dallas stays out of the tax, then we go further into the tax to fill that second needed roster spot. (We are past the general salary guarantee date for this season.)

I don't even want to think of the negotiations over who should be getting the draft picks on this one?..... =/

or the negotiations with AD suggesting that he really IS a center for the Pacers,... nor the overlap on the floor between AD & Pascal, and whom the team would run post or P&R offense through?

So, theoretically for laughs,... it could be possible,... reality, don't think either team would really consider it? (Actually, I hope and pray, the Pacers wouldn't consider it!)

8305,...So, I guess, I think you are correct. For this to happen, we would have to move Pascal. Otherwise their would be huge on court implications & complications. Frankly, I'd rather have Pascal. But, that could just be me?....

AD can be the best player on a title team, I don't think Pascal can. That is the real difference maker here between the two players.

The Mavericks just traded a Top 5 talent for a Top 10 talent. The idea they trade a Top 10 talent for a Top 30 talent is more farfetch'd than the Luka/AD deal itself.

[JMaster5K]

We would need to give up either Siakam or Haliburton, unfortunately.

If we traded Turner, Toppin, & Nesmith = 43,903,500
AD salary = 43,219,440
(AD can't be aggregated with another for trade purposes until April - after the deadline, so after the season.) Though Dallas could put in more salary, we would just have to take it in another way,.. not through aggregation.

So,.. theoretically doable,.. BUT,... that would put Dallas 55,911 into the tax which they aren't likely to do, and it would put us 831,395 under the tax with a roster spots that has to be filled to get us back to the league minimum,... which we aren't likely to do.

If we put in more money, so that Dallas stays out of the tax, then we go further into the tax to fill that second needed roster spot. (We are past the general salary guarantee date for this season.)

I don't even want to think of the negotiations over who should be getting the draft picks on this one?..... =/

or the negotiations with AD suggesting that he really IS a center for the Pacers,... nor the overlap on the floor between AD & Pascal, and whom the team would run post or P&R offense through?

So, theoretically for laughs,... it could be possible,... reality, don't think either team would really consider it? (Actually, I hope and pray, the Pacers wouldn't consider it!)

8305,...So, I guess, I think you are correct. For this to happen, we would have to move Pascal. Otherwise their would be huge on court implications & complications. Frankly, I'd rather have Pascal. But, that could just be me?....

AD can be the best player on a title team, I don't think Pascal can. That is the real difference maker here between the two players.

The Mavericks just traded a Top 5 talent for a Top 10 talent. The idea they trade a Top 10 talent for a Top 30 talent is more farfetch'd than the Luka/AD deal itself.

Yeah,.. it could just be me,... but I don't think AD can be the best player on a title team any more? (that is just my opinion, yes.) Was he in the past,.. Oh yeah! but at 31 this year,... 32 next,... I think he can be a 1B,... but not your #1 player without the potential of his injuries coming back. He almost certainly can't be your best player on an up-tempo, run on both ends, movement based team, like the Pacers? He has the skills yes,... but I don't think he can keep up with Tyrese, Drew, Benn, Shep, Jarace,... even less likely over the course of several, 7 games series? it would slow everything down.

Add to that his extension (already signed) that kicks in next year at 54M and goes up,... He would be just as expensive as having all 3 of the guys above on our roster & including resigning Myles at 30M, with the 2 additional roster spots to fill.

It would be betting everything on this year,... and I don't see us ready to sell out 2, 3, & 4 years out, right now, to at least theoretically compete with a better chance this year, and likely this year alone?

Just the way I see it,... it wouldn't be the first time today I was wrong,.. LOL =]

[Tom White]

Why in the world would we want to trade for the part-timer that is AD? He certainly has not been worth his salary.

[JMaster5K]

Reading about the move by Dallas,... and the FO machinations around it,.... I'm actual thankful to Luka & Nico Harrison,... cause if all this had happened in 2020,... Rick Carlisle might not be our coach at the moment,.... o0

[Scoot McGroot]

Why in the world would we want to trade for the part-timer that is AD? He certainly has not been worth his salary.

He’s only missed 6 games this year, and 6 games last year (playoffs and regular season combined.

Go back 2 years from today, February 3, 2023. From that point to now, he’s played in 165 of 179 total regular season and playoff games, or 92%. Yeah, he’s got a history of injuries, but he’s been playing for awhile now?

[ReggiesKnicks]

Why in the world would we want to trade for the part-timer that is AD? He certainly has not been worth his salary.

He’s only missed 6 games this year, and 6 games last year (playoffs and regular season combined.

Go back 2 years from today, February 3, 2023. From that point to now, he’s played in 165 of 179 total regular season and playoff games, or 92%. Yeah, he’s got a history of injuries, but he’s been playing for awhile now?

He is also a two-way game changer in a way Pascal simply isn't, and this isn't a slight on Pascal in the least.

But I think Indiana, right now, we should be looking to make a smaller consolidation move and allow us to re-assess this summer. We have an excellent foundation of Hali/Pascal, and let me quick differentiate them from Sacramento's duo. Pascal has a much higher post-season skill-set and scalability compared to Sabonis and Haliburton has higher heights than Fox.

With this in mind, we have a ton of options, whether it's being aggressive or being patient with our development.

[basketballwacko2]

I'm still seeing these reports from the media that the Pacers are trading Turner to the Lakers, I'm really getting tired of it. This reminds me of 2 years ago when they kept saying the Pacers were trading Turner and Hield for Westbrook and a #1 in 2027. I told dozens of T&T posters that was crap.

[Scoot McGroot]

I've seen Pacers sites share this tweet:

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But there's a major problem. There's no "Mark Gulbert" that writes for the Athletic. Or, anywhere else, really. There's essentially no online presence of a "Mark Gulbert".

Beware the fakes, clickbaiters, spammers, spoofs, etc, over these next almost 72 hours.

[Wizop]

I can understand holding out for Reeves in a Nesmith or Mathurin deal. But for Myles????

[Scoot McGroot]

I can understand holding out for Reeves in a Nesmith or Mathurin deal. But for Myles????

It’s a fake account. It’s not real.

[Wizop]

I can understand holding out for Reeves in a Nesmith or Mathurin deal. But for Myles????

It’s a fake account. It’s not real.

I saw that but even real accounts have posted fake news about fake trades

[ReggiesKnicks]

I can understand holding out for Reeves in a Nesmith or Mathurin deal. But for Myles????

It’s a fake account. It’s not real.

I saw that but even real accounts have posted fake news about fake trades

Yeah remember the fake AD for Luka trade just 2 days ago