Around the NBA: 2024-25 Edition

[Wizop]

remember a few weeks ago when we were hoping some western conference teams would win their last game to improve our draft pick? now if we make the finals against a 49 win team, we'll have home court.

[JMaster5K]

remember a few weeks ago when we were hoping some western conference teams would win their last game to improve our draft pick? now if we make the finals against a 49 win team, we'll have home court.

What do they do if it's a tie?....

[Wizop]

remember a few weeks ago when we were hoping some western conference teams would win their last game to improve our draft pick? now if we make the finals against a 49 win team, we'll have home court.

What do they do if it's a tie?....

Denver has the tie breaker on us based on conference records. We bettered Warriors and Wolves but not Thunder.

[Wizop]

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[Wizop]

Strawther had some nice minutes for Denver. I tried to track our trades but couldn't figure out how we moved the FRP that became him.

[Pacers Forever]

Strawther had some nice minutes for Denver. I tried to track our trades but couldn't figure out how we moved the FRP that became him.

After taking J Walk at #8 and Ben Sheppard at #26
the Pacers actually traded back in the 2023 draft when it was their turn at #29. The Pacers then got the #47 pick from the Lakers and finished the draft with pick #55 selecting Isiah Wong.

Lakers get:

Maxwell Lewis (No. 40 pick, from Denver via Indiana)

Nuggets get:

Julian Strawther (No. 29 pick, via Indiana)
Jalen Pickett (No. 32 pick, via Indiana)
Hunter Tyson (No. 37 pick, via Oklahoma City)
2024 second-round pick

Pacers get:

Mojave King (No. 47 pick, via Los Angeles Lakers)
2024 first-round pick (Oklahoma City via Denver)
Cash considerations

Thunder get:

2029 first-round pick


So the Pacers made their 2 important first round picks then I guess decided they didn’t want to roster a 3rd first round player probably due to roster limitations. Unfortunately that cost them Strawther and they missed out on Toumani Camara late in the 2nd round. Of course we remember that they couldn’t offer TJD a guaranteed roster spot he was wanting either late in this draft. Unfortunate roster complications I guess for the front office.

[Wizop]

Pacers get:

Mojave King (No. 47 pick, via Los Angeles Lakers)
2024 first-round pick (Oklahoma City via Denver)
Cash considerations

did we give up that 2024 first in the Siakam deal or ???

[Scoot McGroot]

Pacers get:

Mojave King (No. 47 pick, via Los Angeles Lakers)
2024 first-round pick (Oklahoma City via Denver)
Cash considerations

did we give up that 2024 first in the Siakam deal or ???

Yes.

[JMaster5K]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280614/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Raptors-Have-Mutual-Interest-In-Each-Other

[JMaster5K]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280614/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Raptors-Have-Mutual-Interest-In-Each-Other

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280606/Raptors-Making-Noise-About-Pursuing-Major-Trade

[Scoot McGroot]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280614/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Raptors-Have-Mutual-Interest-In-Each-Other

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280606/Raptors-Making-Noise-About-Pursuing-Major-Trade

Masai Ujiri helped the Antetekounmpo family acquire visas a long time ago (from where to where, I cannot recall), so they've been long-time friends.

[JMaster5K]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280614/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Raptors-Have-Mutual-Interest-In-Each-Other

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280606/Raptors-Making-Noise-About-Pursuing-Major-Trade

Masai Ujiri helped the Antetekounmpo family acquire visas a long time ago (from where to where, I cannot recall), so they've been long-time friends.

I was thinking when I read this,... Barnes at 1 wing?... Giannis at the other?... that would seriously make up for Poeltl's lack of offense? With RJ, Immanuel,... and Ja'Kobe,.... that's not so bad a start?... o0

[Scoot McGroot]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280606/Raptors-Making-Noise-About-Pursuing-Major-Trade

Masai Ujiri helped the Antetekounmpo family acquire visas a long time ago (from where to where, I cannot recall), so they've been long-time friends.

I was thinking when I read this,... Barnes at 1 wing?... Giannis at the other?... that would seriously make up for Poeltl's lack of offense? With RJ, Immanuel,... and Ja'Kobe,.... that's not so bad a start?... o0

I think they’d have to give up Barnes. They don’t really have any other means to make up the value/salary if they don’t. Which then raises the question if why Giannis would go there, as it won’t be set up to contend around him, either.

[Grang33r]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280606/Raptors-Making-Noise-About-Pursuing-Major-Trade

Masai Ujiri helped the Antetekounmpo family acquire visas a long time ago (from where to where, I cannot recall), so they've been long-time friends.

I was thinking when I read this,... Barnes at 1 wing?... Giannis at the other?... that would seriously make up for Poeltl's lack of offense? With RJ, Immanuel,... and Ja'Kobe,.... that's not so bad a start?... o0

Not sure how it would work, but i read Toronto wanted to bring in both Giannis and Durant in.

[JMaster5K]

Masai Ujiri helped the Antetekounmpo family acquire visas a long time ago (from where to where, I cannot recall), so they've been long-time friends.

I was thinking when I read this,... Barnes at 1 wing?... Giannis at the other?... that would seriously make up for Poeltl's lack of offense? With RJ, Immanuel,... and Ja'Kobe,.... that's not so bad a start?... o0

I think they’d have to give up Barnes. They don’t really have any other means to make up the value/salary if they don’t. Which then raises the question if why Giannis would go there, as it won’t be set up to contend around him, either.

They could do it by giving up Quickley. They have the contracts to do it & keep Barnes.

But, to your point,… where is the value in that for the Bucks? with Dame out that would make some sense? But the problem for the Raps has been the backcourt. So, as you said, that would essentially leave the Raps with no one that could handle in the backcourt? & not really a contender?

[Scoot McGroot]

I was thinking when I read this,... Barnes at 1 wing?... Giannis at the other?... that would seriously make up for Poeltl's lack of offense? With RJ, Immanuel,... and Ja'Kobe,.... that's not so bad a start?... o0

I think they’d have to give up Barnes. They don’t really have any other means to make up the value/salary if they don’t. Which then raises the question if why Giannis would go there, as it won’t be set up to contend around him, either.

They could do it by giving up Quickley. They have the contracts to do it & keep Barnes.

But, to your point,… where is the value in that for the Bucks? with Dame out that would make some sense? But the problem for the Raps has been the backcourt. So, as you said, that would essentially leave the Raps with no one that could handle in the backcourt? & not really a contender?

Sure. Salary wise, they can make it work, but the value is simply really short. They can start with an offer of Quickley, Agabaji, Dick, and Walter, and then they can add in their 4 1st round picks (they don’t own any extra right now), but would Milwaukee want that volume deal over a quality deal? Are any of those rookie contracts “blue chip” type prospects? And is a roster of Giannis, Barnes, Ingram, Poeltl, and nothing else of consequence a team that can compete?

[JMaster5K]

I think they’d have to give up Barnes. They don’t really have any other means to make up the value/salary if they don’t. Which then raises the question if why Giannis would go there, as it won’t be set up to contend around him, either.

They could do it by giving up Quickley. They have the contracts to do it & keep Barnes.

But, to your point,… where is the value in that for the Bucks? with Dame out that would make some sense? But the problem for the Raps has been the backcourt. So, as you said, that would essentially leave the Raps with no one that could handle in the backcourt? & not really a contender?

Sure. Salary wise, they can make it work, but the value is simply really short. They can start with an offer of Quickley, Agabaji, Dick, and Walter, and then they can add in their 4 1st round picks (they don’t own any extra right now), but would Milwaukee want that volume deal over a quality deal? Are any of those rookie contracts “blue chip” type prospects? And is a roster of Giannis, Barnes, Ingram, Poeltl, and nothing else of consequence a team that can compete?

Agreed,.... It looks good on paper,.. but doesn't really add up?

What do you think of a Giannis for KAT, with NYK adding their 1 draft pick & some other moves around the margins?

[JMaster5K]

What?......

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-fire-tom-thibodeau-new-york-moves-on-from-coach-after-eastern-conference-finals-exit-per-reports/

[Scoot McGroot]

They could do it by giving up Quickley. They have the contracts to do it & keep Barnes.

But, to your point,… where is the value in that for the Bucks? with Dame out that would make some sense? But the problem for the Raps has been the backcourt. So, as you said, that would essentially leave the Raps with no one that could handle in the backcourt? & not really a contender?

Sure. Salary wise, they can make it work, but the value is simply really short. They can start with an offer of Quickley, Agabaji, Dick, and Walter, and then they can add in their 4 1st round picks (they don’t own any extra right now), but would Milwaukee want that volume deal over a quality deal? Are any of those rookie contracts “blue chip” type prospects? And is a roster of Giannis, Barnes, Ingram, Poeltl, and nothing else of consequence a team that can compete?

Agreed,.... It looks good on paper,.. but doesn't really add up?

What do you think of a Giannis for KAT, with NYK adding their 1 draft pick & some other moves around the margins?

I think it’s really short on talent for Milwaukee. And hey just don’t really have the pick value to make up that difference?

[JMaster5K]

Sure. Salary wise, they can make it work, but the value is simply really short. They can start with an offer of Quickley, Agabaji, Dick, and Walter, and then they can add in their 4 1st round picks (they don’t own any extra right now), but would Milwaukee want that volume deal over a quality deal? Are any of those rookie contracts “blue chip” type prospects? And is a roster of Giannis, Barnes, Ingram, Poeltl, and nothing else of consequence a team that can compete?

Agreed,.... It looks good on paper,.. but doesn't really add up?

What do you think of a Giannis for KAT, with NYK adding their 1 draft pick & some other moves around the margins?

I think it’s really short on talent for Milwaukee. And hey just don’t really have the pick value to make up that difference?

Yeah,... I'm not sure they are going to find a talent on talent trade for Giannis? It's likely gonna have to be talent + likely potential to try to balance a trade for Giannis? I just don't see a clear,... 'ok this works' out there at the moment?