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Post#221 » by ReggiesKnicks » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:36 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:If you remember how the Theis situation ended the first go round, you know that he’s never a possibility to return while Carlisle is the coach here :wink:


Some of those Charlotte fans are wildly emotional about the LAL/CHA trade.

Someone called me Dr. Pepper for simply sharing my opinion lol


Maybe they thought you were spicy & full of fizz?.... o0


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Post#222 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Feb 9, 2025 7:28 pm

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Some of those Charlotte fans are wildly emotional about the LAL/CHA trade.

Someone called me Dr. Pepper for simply sharing my opinion lol


Maybe they thought you were spicy & full of fizz?.... o0


23 flavors :P


They were complimenting you as a learned poster with an honorary (or earned) doctorate! :lol:
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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#223 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:50 am

Past trades: I don't think this deserves its own thread but I was thinking about the Oladipo trade that sent him to Houston as part of the Harden to the Nets deal. The Pacers got LeVert and was it 3 2nds? I hated taking LeVert as I saw him as an injury prone 3pt chucker. Then we heard about his Kidney issue, the Pacers could have done what the Lakers did in the Mark Williams deal. But they got a 3rd 2nd round pick instead.

I was looking at the long term effect of this trade. They sent LeVert to the Cavs for Rubio, a 2023 #1 and a 2022 2nd. Rubio for was for salary never played for the Pacers. The 2022 2nd became Andrew Nembhard the 2023 #1 became Ben Sheppard and there were 3? 2nds from the Oladipo trade. Does anyone know who the Pacers got with those additional 2nds?
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Post#224 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:00 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:Past trades: I don't think this deserves its own thread but I was thinking about the Oladipo trade that sent him to Houston as part of the Harden to the Nets deal. The Pacers got LeVert and was it 3 2nds? I hated taking LeVert as I saw him as an injury prone 3pt chucker. Then we heard about his Kidney issue, the Pacers could have done what the Lakers did in the Mark Williams deal. But they got a 3rd 2nd round pick instead.

I was looking at the long term effect of this trade. They sent LeVert to the Cavs for Rubio, a 2023 #1 and a 2022 2nd. Rubio for was for salary never played for the Pacers. The 2022 2nd became Andrew Nembhard the 2023 #1 became Ben Sheppard and there were 3? 2nds from the Oladipo trade. Does anyone know who the Pacers got with those additional 2nds?


January 16, 2021: As part of a 4-team trade, traded by the Indiana Pacers to the Houston Rockets; the Brooklyn Nets traded Jarrett Allen and Taurean Prince to the Cleveland Cavaliers; the Brooklyn Nets traded Rodions Kurucs, a 2021 1st round draft pick, a 2022 1st round draft pick (Tari Eason was later selected), a 2023 1st round draft pick, a 2024 1st round draft pick (Reed Sheppard was later selected), a 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2026 1st round draft pick and a 2027 1st round draft pick to the Houston Rockets; the Brooklyn Nets traded Caris Levert to the Indiana Pacers; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Dante Exum and a 2022 1st round draft pick (MarJon Beauchamp was later selected) to the Houston Rockets; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded cash and a 2024 2nd round draft pick (Tristen Newton was later selected) to the Indiana Pacers; the Houston Rockets traded James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets; and the Houston Rockets traded a 2023 2nd round draft pick (Jalen Pickett was later selected) to the Indiana Pacers. 2024 2nd-rd pick is CLE own 2021 1st-rd pick was a right to swap, did not convey 2023 1st-rd pick was a right to swap, did not convey 2025 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2027 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2022 1st-rd draft pick was MIL own 2023 2nd-rd pick was HOU own
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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#225 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:15 am

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basketballwacko2 wrote:Past trades: I don't think this deserves its own thread but I was thinking about the Oladipo trade that sent him to Houston as part of the Harden to the Nets deal. The Pacers got LeVert and was it 3 2nds? I hated taking LeVert as I saw him as an injury prone 3pt chucker. Then we heard about his Kidney issue, the Pacers could have done what the Lakers did in the Mark Williams deal. But they got a 3rd 2nd round pick instead.

I was looking at the long term effect of this trade. They sent LeVert to the Cavs for Rubio, a 2023 #1 and a 2022 2nd. Rubio for was for salary never played for the Pacers. The 2022 2nd became Andrew Nembhard the 2023 #1 became Ben Sheppard and there were 3? 2nds from the Oladipo trade. Does anyone know who the Pacers got with those additional 2nds?


January 16, 2021: As part of a 4-team trade, traded by the Indiana Pacers to the Houston Rockets; the Brooklyn Nets traded Jarrett Allen and Taurean Prince to the Cleveland Cavaliers; the Brooklyn Nets traded Rodions Kurucs, a 2021 1st round draft pick, a 2022 1st round draft pick (Tari Eason was later selected), a 2023 1st round draft pick, a 2024 1st round draft pick (Reed Sheppard was later selected), a 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2026 1st round draft pick and a 2027 1st round draft pick to the Houston Rockets; the Brooklyn Nets traded Caris Levert to the Indiana Pacers; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Dante Exum and a 2022 1st round draft pick (MarJon Beauchamp was later selected) to the Houston Rockets; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded cash and a 2024 2nd round draft pick (Tristen Newton was later selected) to the Indiana Pacers; the Houston Rockets traded James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets; and the Houston Rockets traded a 2023 2nd round draft pick (Jalen Pickett was later selected) to the Indiana Pacers. 2024 2nd-rd pick is CLE own 2021 1st-rd pick was a right to swap, did not convey 2023 1st-rd pick was a right to swap, did not convey 2025 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2027 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2022 1st-rd draft pick was MIL own 2023 2nd-rd pick was HOU own



Good info what I was trying to figure out was if those 2nds from the Oladipo deal had all been used or traded off.
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Post#226 » by JeffFosters » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:15 am

Twitter says we’ve signed Jahlil Okafor, didn’t see that coming (assuming it’s real)
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Post#227 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 am

JeffFosters wrote:Twitter says we’ve signed Jahlil Okafor, didn’t see that coming (assuming it’s real)


BlueSky says it's a 10 day. Don't see anything on Len and waiver claims
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Post#228 » by Pacers Forever » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:32 am

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I really hope so because I would rather see Okafor succeed here.
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Post#229 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:34 am

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I really hope so because I would rather see Okafor succeed here.


I'm shocked at either. Okafor is slower than Moses (Brown :lol: ), so we know even if he puts up a stat, he'd be a hindrance to the team. Wonder if it's a "do good" for the agent and player while we figure out how to really fill the position?
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Post#230 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:41 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:I'm shocked at either. Okafor is slower than Moses (Brown :lol: ), so we know even if he puts up a stat, he'd be a hindrance to the team. Wonder if it's a "do good" for the agent and player while we figure out how to really fill the position?


It's a 10 day so it buys time through the all star break.
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Post#231 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:44 am

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Scoot McGroot wrote:I'm shocked at either. Okafor is slower than Moses (Brown :lol: ), so we know even if he puts up a stat, he'd be a hindrance to the team. Wonder if it's a "do good" for the agent and player while we figure out how to really fill the position?


It's a 10 day so it buys time through the all star break.


Absolutely. And with that, it allows us more time if we chose to waive James Johnson going into the playoffs and promoted one of the two ways, like Freeman, to the main roster to play in the playoffs.
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Post#234 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:36 am

JeffFosters wrote:Twitter says we’ve signed Jahlil Okafor, didn’t see that coming (assuming it’s real)



Hasn't he been with the Mad Ants since the beginning of the season?
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Post#235 » by Pacers Forever » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:57 am

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JeffFosters wrote:Twitter says we’ve signed Jahlil Okafor, didn’t see that coming (assuming it’s real)



Hasn't he been with the Mad Ants since the beginning of the season?


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Post#237 » by ReggiesKnicks » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:50 pm

@Scoot, if we drained our asset pool for Herb Jones I would riot
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Post#238 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:54 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:@Scoot, if we drained our asset pool for Herb Jones I would riot


:lol:

If we made a trade of Walker OR Mathurin for Herb, I would understand. But both, along with a 1st? That's insane. I think most of it is, and not saying they're dumb or ignorant or insulting them, that it's hard for people to see why Walker is getting jerked around a bit on minutes and his stats aren't consistently "growing huge". Or why Nesmith is getting some starts over Mathurin. To an outsider, it's hard to look and see anything other than "man, this team is ignoring them and they're not really being utilized, why not condense to someone who is starting elsewhere?"
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Post#239 » by ReggiesKnicks » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:59 pm

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ReggiesKnicks wrote:@Scoot, if we drained our asset pool for Herb Jones I would riot


:lol:

If we made a trade of Walker OR Mathurin for Herb, I would understand. But both, along with a 1st? That's insane. I think most of it is, and not saying they're dumb or ignorant or insulting them, that it's hard for people to see why Walker is getting jerked around a bit on minutes and his stats aren't consistently "growing huge". Or why Nesmith is getting some starts over Mathurin. To an outsider, it's hard to look and see anything other than "man, this team is ignoring them and they're not really being utilized, why not condense to someone who is starting elsewhere?"


I agree and I think it's a good lesson of how these players are valued around the league. Players like Walker still hold a good amount of value to their teams because they are role players, young, cost-controlled, and have a ceiling that is more than their current level.

You factor all of that and sure, a team isn't paying multiple 1sts for Jarace Walker, but he still has a clear path to becoming a good player in the NBA.

It's also just a bad use of assets, objectively. Teams who are middle-of-the-pack playoff teams shouldn't be draining their asset pool for Herb Jones level players. No offense to Herb Jones, but he just isn't going to change the fortunes of a franchise. If I'm giving up Walker/Mathurin/1st, I want a player who has a good chance of changing our future outlook.
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Post#240 » by Wizop » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:12 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:It's also just a bad use of assets, objectively. Teams who are middle-of-the-pack playoff teams shouldn't be draining their asset pool for Herb Jones level players. No offense to Herb Jones, but he just isn't going to change the fortunes of a franchise. If I'm giving up Walker/Mathurin/1st, I want a player who has a good chance of changing our future outlook.


Setting aside players who deserve contracts rivaling Haliburton/Siakam/Turner, I question whether there are any players out there who would clearly make us a top 3 team in the East. Which is not to say I won't sacrifice a rotation player to keep Turner without paying tax. I just don't see a big trade coming and calling one a consolidation doesn't change my opinion.
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