2021 Free Agency & Off-season

Post #241 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:08 am

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FutureKnicksGM · Post #242 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:35 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:
FutureKnicksGM wrote:Assuming you don't have bigger plans with your roster, any interest in:

Lamb ($10.5), #13($3.7)
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Obi Toppin ($5.1)?

You get a bit more breathing room financially to re-sign a FA or two, and ofc get a look at Obi.

Absolutely not. You’d have to include the 19 or 21 as a trade down. Toppin, while not nearly as bad as he played this year, isn’t worth a lotto pick straight up right now. And Lamb is still useful for us.

Plus, the need for a Toppin diminished for us with the signing, and emergence, of Oshae Brissett.

Fair enough - no deal there.

Wizop · Post #243 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:31 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:One I can confirm is Lonzo Ball. About 2 weeks ago that was being discussed. Not sure how serious it was or deep it has gotten, but there has a discussion about Brogdon and if he's the answer long-term.

If he isn't the answer LONG-TERM, rather than trade for a high priced substitute I'd much rather draft someone like Mitchell or Cooper and see if they grow into the answer. a defensive stopper at the 1 is about the only type of player that I can see having an obvious role on the Pacers as a rookie.

Post #244 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:33 pm

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Post #245 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:37 pm

Wizop wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:One I can confirm is Lonzo Ball. About 2 weeks ago that was being discussed. Not sure how serious it was or deep it has gotten, but there has a discussion about Brogdon and if he's the answer long-term.

If he isn't the answer LONG-TERM, rather than trade for a high priced substitute I'd much rather draft someone like Mitchell or Cooper and see if they grow into the answer. a defensive stopper at the 1 is about the only type of player that I can see having an obvious role on the Pacers as a rookie.

Caitlin Cooper with some GREAT thoughts and in-depth observations on potentially adding Lonzo Ball to this lineup. You might have to click through to the twitter thread to see it all. A bit too much to post each part of the thread here.

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Wizop · Post #246 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:53 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Caitlin Cooper with some GREAT thoughts and in-depth observations on potentially adding Lonzo Ball to this lineup. You might have to click through to the twitter thread to see it all. A bit too much to post each part of the thread here.

I agree with her conclusion.

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Post #247 » by **pacers33granger** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:36 pm

Yeah if Brogdon isn't the answer (he's likely not), Lonzo certainly isn't either.

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Topofthekey · Post #248 » by **Topofthekey** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:09 pm

Trading Brogdon for Lonzo Ball just seems like a lateral move at best

Simmons is available, and potentially Lillard and Beal as well

I'd rather Pacers go after one of them

Or, how about a pipe dream where we keep Myles and trade everything else for Simmons + Beal

Myles, Simmons, Justin, Beal, Sumner
Goga, Brissett, Doug, Martin, Aaron, TJ

I'd be very excited to watch that team

Wizop · Post #249 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:32 pm

Scott Agness reports that the players are practicing together in LA. Sabonis is in Lithuania but other 4 starters and some reserves are there.

Post #250 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:37 pm

JMichael called McConnell a virtual lock to return unless something changes. :dontknow:

Wizop · Post #251 » by **Wizop** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:28 am

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Pacers Forever · Post #252 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:21 am

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This is nice but what I really want proof of is Warren healthy and going to practice before season starts and the same for Myles health.

Wizop · Post #253 » by **Wizop** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:28 am

Pacers Forever wrote:This is nice but what I really want proof of is Warren healthy and going to practice before season starts and the same for Myles health.

I don't do Instagram so I can't dig deeper here but I thought the story had Warren and Myles both with the group in LA.

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Pacers Forever · Post #254 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:48 am

It sounds like Warren is there

Post #255 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:44 pm

Pacers Forever wrote:It sounds like Warren is there

I believe Warren organized it. He’s definitely there, though, as the video originally came from his instagram account.

Post #256 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:14 pm

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Post #257 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm

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Post #258 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:10 pm

J.Michael mentioned Otto Porter as a guy the Pacers have liked in the past, and that his agents have been hunting for an MLE deal that isn’t likely to come. Maybe find a way to split $12m between McConnell and Otto? Let a veteran locker room guy compete with Kelan for the 15th spot?

Obviously, any trades happening in the next week could really throw this all for a loop.

Topofthekey · Post #259 » by **Topofthekey** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:04 pm

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Looks like trading Brogdon + LeVert for Simmons shaves another $6m off the payroll, bringing Pacers to about $19m below tax

$19m should be enough to bring back both TJ and Doug

So for practical purposes, we can think of the trade as Brogdon + LeVert for Simmons + Doug

Pacers Forever · Post #260 » by **Pacers Forever** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:22 pm

Topofthekey wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:

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Looks like trading Brogdon + LeVert for Simmons shaves another $6m off the payroll, bringing Pacers to about $19m below tax

$19m should be enough to bring back both TJ and Doug

So for practical purposes, we can think of the trade as Brogdon + LeVert for Simmons + Doug

Problem is Daryl Morey wants to fleece the team taking Simmons. Have you seen his ridiculous requests to Toronto and Golden St. ?