2024 Off-Season

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OT and Q but not Wong. The odds on Newton or Freeman getting a standard contract just went up.

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OT and Q but not Wong. The odds on Newton or Freeman getting a standard contract just went up.

At 6’5” PG Quenton Jackson was drafted by the Wizards and the Mad Ants got him after the Wizards made him expendable. I feel like the Pacers have him in their plans going forward as a possible developmental piece more so than Wong or King when they added him to the 2 way last season late.

As far as the roster spot I don’t know which the Pacers will rather put on the roster. Pure speculation says Freeman would be a big for defense depth and the case for Newton would be that he’s farther advanced in his development and could be a wing practicing and learning from Nesmith and Sheppard.

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and the case for Newton would be that he’s farther advanced in his development and could be a wing practicing and learning from Nesmith and Sheppard.

I see Newton as the third point guard with Nembhard getting his minutes at SG barring injuries. So he'd be learning mostly from Ty and TJ.

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and the case for Newton would be that he’s farther advanced in his development and could be a wing practicing and learning from Nesmith and Sheppard.

I see Newton as the third point guard with Nembhard getting his minutes at SG barring injuries. So he'd be learning mostly from Ty and TJ.

He’d still be the 4th PG in that case. They wouldn’t keep Nembhard at SG and put the ball in Newton’s hands if Tyrese and TJ were out.

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and the case for Newton would be that he’s farther advanced in his development and could be a wing practicing and learning from Nesmith and Sheppard.

I see Newton as the third point guard with Nembhard getting his minutes at SG barring injuries. So he'd be learning mostly from Ty and TJ.

Will be interesting to say the least because Mathurin may be solely used for shooting guard minutes and not used as a wing in place of Nesmith since, Sheppard and Walker might be backing up Nesmith.

Whatever the case I see very little playing time for Furphy, Newton, K. Brown and others. I kinda feel like the Pacers might sign a cheap vet who can still contribute who will slot in and take minutes away from this group.

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He’d still be the 4th PG in that case. They wouldn’t keep Nembhard at SG and put the ball in Newton’s hands if Tyrese and TJ were out.

What if just TJ were injured or in foul trouble? Ty and Drew could still get their first unit minutes but Newton could get second unit minutes. I'm a big believer in three point guards and I see Drew mostly as a shooting guard. I agree though that Drew starts at point if Ty is out.

But if Freeman is a center, and he was a college center, maybe he gets the standard deal.

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Training camp and summer league might give the Pacers front office different perspective on roster construction. Also if they acquire a free agent or Obi leaves.

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He’d still be the 4th PG in that case. They wouldn’t keep Nembhard at SG and put the ball in Newton’s hands if Tyrese and TJ were out.

What if just TJ were injured or in foul trouble? Ty and Drew could still get their first unit minutes but Newton could get second unit minutes. I'm a big believer in three point guards and I see Drew mostly as a shooting guard. I agree though that Drew starts at point if Ty is out.

But if Freeman is a center, and he was a college center, maybe he gets the standard deal.

I think it would be coaching malpractice to put the ball in Newton’s hands at the cost of Nembhard.

If Newton is that good that you should consider that, deal Nembhard asap.

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If Newton is that good that you should consider that, deal Nembhard asap.

We do need insurance a couple of years from now as Nembhard will become a free agent and TJ is over 30. But I understand Newton could be that and still start as a two way. We may soon get a clue if we offer a draftee a two way or just offer both of them exhibit 20s.

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If Newton is that good that you should consider that, deal Nembhard asap.

We do need insurance a couple of years from now as Nembhard will become a free agent and TJ is over 30. But I understand Newton could be that and still start as a two way. We may soon get a clue if we offer a draftee a two way or just offer both of them exhibit 20s.

Even if their offered exhibit 10’s they can be automatically converted to the two way before the season starts. The cash bonuses are at the same limit.

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Even if their offered exhibit 10’s they can be automatically converted to the two way before the season starts. The cash bonuses are at the same limit.

I understood that. We could give both exhibit tens and later give one a two way and sign the other (or both) to either the Pacers or the Ants.

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This would be unpopular with the masses of Pacers fans but I wouldn’t mind if it’s even possible putting Furphy, Newton, Freeman, Tshiebwe, Q Jack all on the Mad Ants to start the season. Of course 3 of them would be 2 ways and 2 would be Mad Ants.

Let’s face it the rookies aren’t getting minutes this season. Carlisle said last season minutes would be tight and earned…well this season it’s going to be even tougher.

I would only do this for the 1 season as Mathurin, Nembhard, Sheppard, I Jax, and hopefully Brown will be matured enough to make easier decisions for the coaching staff on who gets minutes and who will be on the move off the club next season.

Fill the end of the roster 13, 14, 15 spots with useful vet minimum guys who have a defensive skill set and want to make a run to the playoffs.

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Even if their offered exhibit 10’s they can be automatically converted to the two way before the season starts. The cash bonuses are at the same limit.

I understood that. We could give both exhibit tens and later give one a two way and sign the other (or both) to either the Pacers or the Ants.

We could give both exhibit 10’s and then either convert them to a two way or to a full main roster contract. If we waive them, and they later sign with the GLeague and get assigned to ft Wayne, they could then get an exhibit 10 bonus. But we wouldn’t need to sign new contracts, as we would just convert them, or waive them. If they’re to be a Mad Ant, they would sign a contract with the GLeague itself. The Pacers, nor any team, sign players directly to their GLeague affiliate, like MLB does with their minor leagues.

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This would be unpopular with the masses of Pacers fans but I wouldn’t mind if it’s even possible putting Furphy, Newton, Freeman, Tshiebwe, Q Jack all on the Mad Ants to start the season. Of course 3 of them would be 2 ways and 2 would be Mad Ants.

It's simpler than that. A player can be on the Pacer roster and still be assigned to the Ants. I fully expect Furphy to get a Pacer contract but play for the Ants to begin with.

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This would be unpopular with the masses of Pacers fans but I wouldn’t mind if it’s even possible putting Furphy, Newton, Freeman, Tshiebwe, Q Jack all on the Mad Ants to start the season. Of course 3 of them would be 2 ways and 2 would be Mad Ants.

Let’s face it the rookies aren’t getting minutes this season. Carlisle said last season minutes would be tight and earned…well this season it’s going to be even tougher.

I would only do this for the 1 season as Mathurin, Nembhard, Sheppard, I Jax, and hopefully Brown will be matured enough to make easier decisions for the coaching staff on who gets minutes and who will be on the move off the club next season.

Fill the end of the roster 13, 14, 15 spots with useful vet minimum guys who have a defensive skill set and want to make a run to the playoffs.

Furphy would be the highest drafted player in nba history to get a two way, by quite a bit. I can’t imagine his agent would let him sign a two way or exhibit 10. He’s likely getting 2 guaranteed nba salary years, like Nembhard originally did.

As for the other 4, well, 3 get two ways, sure, and the 4th has to clear waivers and would likely end up claimed, or signed elsewhere on a quick exhibit 10 to shuffle to a different GLeague team.

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This would be unpopular with the masses of Pacers fans but I wouldn’t mind if it’s even possible putting Furphy, Newton, Freeman, Tshiebwe, Q Jack all on the Mad Ants to start the season. Of course 3 of them would be 2 ways and 2 would be Mad Ants.

Let’s face it the rookies aren’t getting minutes this season. Carlisle said last season minutes would be tight and earned…well this season it’s going to be even tougher.

I would only do this for the 1 season as Mathurin, Nembhard, Sheppard, I Jax, and hopefully Brown will be matured enough to make easier decisions for the coaching staff on who gets minutes and who will be on the move off the club next season.

Fill the end of the roster 13, 14, 15 spots with useful vet minimum guys who have a defensive skill set and want to make a run to the playoffs.

Furphy would be the highest drafted player in nba history to get a two way, by quite a bit. I can’t imagine his agent would let him sign a two way or exhibit 10. He’s likely getting 2 guaranteed nba salary years, like Nembhard originally did.

As for the other 4, well, 3 get two ways, sure, and the 4th has to clear waivers and would likely end up claimed, or signed elsewhere on a quick exhibit 10 to shuffle to a different GLeague team.

If you guys noticed I didn’t include Jarace as being matured enough by next season’s end to make a decision on him.

I think in fairness Jarace will get opportunity this season to play hopefully a lot. I believe he will need a year after next to get to Mathurin/Nembhard level. I think he and Sheppard are very safe and top priority to develop.

I feel like the Pacers are in a very good place with youth maybe borderline too much after this draft. Many decisions after this season with so much potential talent.

My feelings are like others that the East teams are getting healthy and probably strong enough to put the top 7 teams including the Pacers on a dog eat dog nightly free for all throw down battle basis to win against each other. The only team who is slightly above the fray is the Celtics.

The Pacers must re-sign Obi back to stay in that group or replace him with an equivalent talented player. I think getting Mathurin back will make a difference and strengthen the squad a bit along with everyone’s natural maturation. Otherwise they slide back down to the 7 spot right above the Heat.

However to get better than the other 5 teams below the Celtics (Cavs, Bucks, Knicks, Magic, 76ers) I feel the Pacers have to add someone as talented as Stix but hopefully more talented. I don’t know what position that would be but will propose center.

I don’t feel like they can upgrade Haliburton or Siakam. That leaves Nesmith, Turner, and Nembhard.

I feel like the position on the team where they needed to add a difference maker was in Nesmith’s position. The 2 best options were grabbed by the Knicks.

The second team most likely will be McConnell, Mathurin, Walker, Toppin, and I Jax.

You can’t block Walker’s opportunity. So I really don’t know how they add a difference maker unless it’s someone like Valanciunis who would be a clear upgrade over I Jax.

I think that’s the easiest way to upgrade this season to possibly come out above the other 5 teams without blowing up the roster with a trade. Next season maybe they go for another star with a big consolidation talent trade.

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Tony East has a Sunday episode of Locked On Pacers covering the roster issues. It's free to watch on YouTube.

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Hmmmmmmm this would qualify as Chad trying to put more around Tyrese. Just not sure about him at 30 years old and he’s only 6’5”. Feels like Bruce Brown part 2. I lean towards no for fit reasons only.