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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#441 » by Wizop » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:59 pm

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Wizop wrote:Tony East on his podcast says he believes the Pacers have pulled Freeman's qualifying offer making him an UFA. Tony says he is trying to get confirmation,


Per Keith Smith at Spotrac, 2 days ago.

Enrique Freeman (PF)
Jul 22, 2025 - Indiana (IND) withdrew Qualifying Offer; becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent


I take it Freeman never developed enough as a 4 and we don't need him as a 5. Peter get's the last two-way.. Freeman can sign anywhere. Scoot can clarify but I do not think the Boom is guaranteed to get him.
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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#442 » by Pacers Forever » Thu Jul 24, 2025 2:52 pm

Wizop wrote:
JMaster5K wrote:
Wizop wrote:Tony East on his podcast says he believes the Pacers have pulled Freeman's qualifying offer making him an UFA. Tony says he is trying to get confirmation,


Per Keith Smith at Spotrac, 2 days ago.

Enrique Freeman (PF)
Jul 22, 2025 - Indiana (IND) withdrew Qualifying Offer; becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent


I take it Freeman never developed enough as a 4 and we don't need him as a 5. Peter get's the last two-way.. Freeman can sign anywhere. Scoot can clarify but I do not think the Boom is guaranteed to get him.


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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#443 » by Pacers Forever » Thu Jul 24, 2025 2:57 pm

So Enrique Freeman can now be signed by any NBA team to a roster spot or most likely a 2 way deal. Otherwise if he doesn’t sign in the NBA and wants to play basketball professionally then he’s got overseas or the G league draft. I don’t think the boom has any rights to him now that the Pacers made him an unrestricted free agent.
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Post#444 » by JMaster5K » Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:50 pm

OK,... Fair warning,... I think on this post, I'ma go full conspiracy theory? read at your own risk,....

I keep reading articles from sportswriters,... not analysts, that say 'the Pacers are going to be slower next year', 'the Pacers will be more deliberate', & 'the Pacers will be a better defensive team next year, but worse on offense'.

The more I look at our team,... & the more I watch what the FO is doing in terms of personnel,... I'm starting to believe, once again, the coaches are going to 'zig' when the rest of the league expects them to 'zag'?....

I look at our PG's,... neither Drew, nor TJ read the court the same way that Tyrese does. (Full disclosure,... no one reads the court the way that Tyrese does.) Neither sets up the offense as early, nor manipulates the defense in the same way as Tyrese. Both Drew & TJ are very, very smart players. They have very similar playstyles. Both of them attack the paint & put 2 feet in the paint. Using their penchant for getting into the paint to bend the defense & create the offensive advantage, either for themselves, a lob threat, or (more likely) the shooters beyond the arc.

So, that's what I think we are going to do,... and do it FAST. Force the other teams frontcourt to run, or give up even more shots at the rim? Force faster reactions that lead to quick 3-pointers? Which of course leads to longer rebounds on misses, which helps us out, as our guards can then be a primary source of rebounding?

In that type of offense,... Benn's skillset gets maximized. He can even be an offense initiator, even if he isn't a primary ball handler? TJ or Drew get into the paint,... kick the ball, continue on the cut through the paint, which leaves Benn to attack downhill, while maintaining the perimeter shooters around the offense? Same holds true for OB1. He isn't much of a kick-out passer,... but the rest of that plays into his strengths as well.

Speed would be even more important than strength. It would fit our 5's, way better than slowing things down? They could generate their mismatches by simply beating the other teams bigs down the court?

I keep thinking of the last generation Warriors offense? inlet pass to the paint (or in our case drive), flex the defense, set up the 3 pointer?

In that type of scheme,... we haven't talked much about Shep,... but Shep would really thrive in that scheme. He's been asked to be a defender off the bench to earn his time. He has the skills & athleticism for it. But, he was also an extremely efficient, 2nd in his league in scoring in college (18.8). His skillset aligns really nicely with Peters.

Pascal would (as he did quite a bit this year) start at the break as a shooter,... then as the PG gets into the paint & kicks out, or goes through the paint, would flash down into the mid-post to set up his game, as the defense is following the lead guard, or closing out on the shooter?

Would we be more deliberate? probably,.. we would have more specific actions defined as part of our sets. Our guys would still be reading & creating,... but with a better idea of who is going to be where? But, slower,... I don't think so. Better defense,.. yeah, I can see that. Worse on offense? not necessarily. I mean the offense will be different. It will have to learn to run without Tyrese,... but our coaches have figured this stuff out before, and I'm believing they will do it again. IMO, with even more speed, not less?

OK,... 'thought exercise' over,.... LOL It's just that I could actually see that working? :crazy: :o :wink:
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Re: Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread 

Post#445 » by Wizop » Fri Jul 25, 2025 1:13 pm

JMaster5K wrote:I keep thinking of the last generation Warriors offense?


and I think of Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets making hockey substitutions and running teams into the ground - of course they had the advantage of altitude too.
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Post#446 » by JMaster5K » Fri Jul 25, 2025 1:34 pm

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JMaster5K wrote:I keep thinking of the last generation Warriors offense?


and I think of Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets making hockey substitutions and running teams into the ground - of course they had the advantage of altitude too.


Yeah, exactly... but using that speed,... and the penetration that both Drew & TJ get to set up the 3 pointer as the primary mode of attack? with the number of guys on this team that can shoot 38%+, against NBA style defenses,... with Drew at the point, we could actually increase our pace, & shoot a higher number of 3's, at the same time?
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Post#447 » by Wizop » Fri Jul 25, 2025 1:40 pm

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JMaster5K wrote:I keep thinking of the last generation Warriors offense?


and I think of Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets making hockey substitutions and running teams into the ground - of course they had the advantage of altitude too.


Yeah, exactly... but using that speed,... and the penetration that both Drew & TJ get to set up the 3 pointer as the primary mode of attack? with the number of guys on this team that can shoot 38%+, against NBA style defenses,... with Drew at the point, we could actually increase our pace, & shoot a higher number of 3's, at the same time?


I hope I don't see the coaches teaching this year's team to do things in a way they have to unlearn when Tyrese returns. I expect us to play to win but I also expect us to play to become even better in future years.
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Post#448 » by JMaster5K » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:38 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281513/Raptors-Search-Focuses-On-Bobby-Webster;-Other-Candidates-Include-Eversley-Pritchard

Indiana Pacers general manager Chad Buchanan is also under consideration by the Raptors front office.

Kevin Pritchard represents perhaps the most intriguing external option for Toronto. The longtime Indiana Pacers president led the franchise to the NBA Finals in June and the Eastern Conference Finals in 2024. One league insider suggested Pritchard is MLSE's preferred choice, though lateral moves involving contracted executives present additional complications compared to promotions
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Post#449 » by Wizop » Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:41 pm

Bryant reportedly signing in Greece.
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Post#450 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Aug 1, 2025 3:23 pm

Enrique Freeman to the Timberwolves on a two way deal. When reports stated he had offers elsewhere, I assumed it would be better than just a two way. I would guess he just didn't have a solid offer from Indy for the two way spot, and they had no interest in promoting anyone to the main roster to clear that spot. :dontknow:
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Post#451 » by Wizop » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:27 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Enrique Freeman to the Timberwolves on a two way deal. When reports stated he had offers elsewhere, I assumed it would be better than just a two way. I would guess he just didn't have a solid offer from Indy for the two way spot, and they had no interest in promoting anyone to the main roster to clear that spot. :dontknow:


I think he would've been a 5th C here rather than a 3rd PF. he didn't shine as a PF in summer league.
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Post#452 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Aug 1, 2025 5:48 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:Enrique Freeman to the Timberwolves on a two way deal. When reports stated he had offers elsewhere, I assumed it would be better than just a two way. I would guess he just didn't have a solid offer from Indy for the two way spot, and they had no interest in promoting anyone to the main roster to clear that spot. :dontknow:


I think he would've been a 5th C here rather than a 3rd PF. he didn't shine as a PF in summer league.


From what I gather, he didn’t have an offer here to be either. :eek:
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Post#453 » by Wizop » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:00 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:From what I gather, he didn’t have an offer here to be either. :eek:


didn't he have a QO that was pulled? in any event, he might have received an offer had he shown promise as a 4, but he didn't and we needed two-way slots for guards with Tyrese out for the year.
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Post#454 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:03 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:From what I gather, he didn’t have an offer here to be either. :eek:


didn't he have a QO that was pulled? in any event, he might have received an offer had he shown promise as a 4, but he didn't and we needed two-way slots for guards with Tyrese out for the year.


He did. But he likely would’ve been waived immediately if he signed it? So, he had a legal offer that retained his legal rights, but probably not a real offer to make the team (two way or main roster).
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Post#455 » by JMaster5K » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:57 pm

Carlisle told Cooper. "You put him in a rat game with a bunch of switching and a bunch of physical stuff, he’s going to find 18 points and he’s going to shoot seven free throws, at least. But the pure elements of the passing and the quick decisions and stuff like that are things that he is gradually getting, and he’s going to get there. And I think, this year, right now, I’ll break the news right here, I’m projecting him as our starter at the 2 this year on Day 1. I told him this, I was on the phone with him and his agent four days ago, and I said, ‘You’re going to be with the starters on Day 1. It’s your job to lose. But here’s what we need from you: We need you to keep working on the running and simply running to the corners and stretching out the defense.'"

https://eu.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2025/08/05/bennedict-mathurin-will-take-tyrese-haliburton-spot-in-pacers-starting-lineup-2025-26-rick-carlisle/85523183007/

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Post#456 » by Wizop » Tue Aug 5, 2025 6:06 pm

The above is must watch video.
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Post#457 » by Pacers Forever » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:25 am

Wizop wrote:The above is must watch video.


Rick mentioned several of his players names in this interview especially talking about how Mathurin and other players will have to adjust without Tyrese this season. I was very surprised that Jarace Walker’s name was never mentioned. Furphy, Bradley, and Peter were the only other ones not mentioned and I really didn’t expect to hear their names.

I understand that a lot of the video talking points were on strategy and how Rick views the game. However I was hoping to hear Rick say that it could be a huge year for players like Walker and Furphy to have opportunity to contribute more to the team.
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Post#458 » by JMaster5K » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:47 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281607/Mike-Weinar-Out-Of-Running-For-Knicks-Top-Assistant-Coach-Job-To-Stay-With-Pacers

Mike Weinar has removed himself from consideration for the New York Knicks' top assistant coach job under Mike Brown. Weinar decided to remain with the Indiana Pacers under Rick Carlisle.
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Post#459 » by Pacers Forever » Thu Aug 7, 2025 8:38 am

JMaster5K wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281607/Mike-Weinar-Out-Of-Running-For-Knicks-Top-Assistant-Coach-Job-To-Stay-With-Pacers

Mike Weinar has removed himself from consideration for the New York Knicks' top assistant coach job under Mike Brown. Weinar decided to remain with the Indiana Pacers under Rick Carlisle.


Smart move because Mike Brown hasn’t had the best luck holding a coaching position. Carlisle more of a sure thing.
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Post#460 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:54 pm

Looking ahead, but this upcoming summer, Indy can discuss contracts with 3 possible free agents (Mathurin, Wiseman, and Bradley...the latter two if their options are declined), as well as possibly discuss extensions with up to 10 players!!! McConnell would require his team option declined on his last year (and then would be extension eligible summer 26), but Hali, Siakam, Nemby, Obi, McConnell, Nesmith, Furphy, and Huff would be eligible for veteran extensions, and Sheppard and Walker would be eligible for rookie contract extensions.

This could be a major seasons for future team building decisions.

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