2024 Off-Season

[Wizop]

Kyle Mangas replacement?

I posted this under Summer League although the signing might be too late for that. he killed IU.

Yup. Not sure it’s too late, but he’s not playing summer league. Might be a case of Indy trying to hide him a bit and keep him from getting a two way elsewhere out of camp?

pretty sure he's playing with the Japanese Olympic team.

[Pacers Forever]

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1 Tyrese Haliburton
2 Pascal Siakam
3 Myles Turner
4 Obi Toppin
5 Aaron Nesmith
6 T.J. McConnell
7 Bennedict Mathurin
8 Jarace Walker
9 Isaiah Jackson
10 Ben Sheppard
11 James Wiseman
12 Kendall Brown
13 James Johnson
14 Andrew Nembhard
15 Johnny Furphy

Sad to see Kendall Brown still on the roster. There’s no way he gets minutes.

Only 2 way I have heard announced was during SL and it was Freeman.

So not sure about the future of
Quenton Jackson
Tristan Newton
Oscar Tshiebwe

[Scoot McGroot]

Only 2 way I have heard announced was during SL and it was Freeman.

That definitely not official, just an educated guess or assumption on the announcers part.

So not sure about the future of
Quenton Jackson
Tristan Newton
Oscar Tshiebwe

Yup. It’s essentially a 4 man race (those 3 and Freeman) competing for 3 spots. With the guaranteed salary on Wiseman and now the signing of James Johnson as an emergency big, I would assume there’s a real tough road for Oscar to take that spot. Though, he could take it and Jackson is moved on? Newton and Freeman definitely have the inside track as the newest additions, and having been drafted by the team.

[Wizop]

Tony's podcast today discussed the problem of 4 people and 3 two-ways. Signing JJ removes the option of giving one of them a standard contract without waiving Brown.

[Pacers Forever]

I figure it comes down to a Tshiebwe and Q Jax decision for the last 2 way contract.

I wish they would just cut ties with Kendall Brown because there’s so much talent in front of him. I would put Tshiebwe on the roster instead.

The real issue is Q Jax and Kendall Brown don’t look like players who will be any more than G league talent. Not sure if Tshiebwe can get his defense good enough to make the NBA.

I wish they had the cap space to add another vet minimum player to the back end or find a summer league prospect that has more potential than what they currently have.

[Wizop]

I wish they had the cap space to add another vet minimum player to the back end or find a summer league prospect that has more potential than what they currently have.

You don't need cap space to add a minimum contract. They'd just need to cut Brown to create a roster spot. They can see who is available in October when players are cut before the start of the season.

[Scoot McGroot]

I wish they had the cap space to add another vet minimum player to the back end or find a summer league prospect that has more potential than what they currently have.

Indy could save $50k against the tax by waiving Kendall Brown and signing a player to a vet minimum contract. Kendall has $0 gtd at this point.

But, what role could they sign that would get minutes? There’s log jams at the guards, PF, and C. If Nesmith/Mathurin/Walker play 3, and Furphy is to get even a handful of minutes this season, there’s a logjam there, too. I’m just not seeing a role to be filled that Brown doesn’t already fill?

Although, to me, this is more a potential argument to waive Brown and leave the 15th spot empty until January for 10 days and potential trade flexibility?

[Wizop]

I’m just not seeing a role to be filled

It is my old position - Left Our.

[Grang33r]

12 Kendall Brown
15 Johnny Furphy

Sad to see Kendall Brown still on the roster. There’s no way he gets minutes.

I don't think Brown did himself any favors in summer league.I thought he needed to take the next step and be a leader and key contributor but he was far from it. It was his 3rd summer league. Typically those guys are close to dominating by this time. Thought he struggled getting past guys and took some bad shots.

As for Johnny Furphy, i really liked his game, but he is far from seeing NBA minutes. He averaged 6 rebounds a game at summer league and i thought he played good defense and did good job on both ends of the court at rebounding. They talked about his athleticism when they drafted him and it was on display. But his shot was way off. He needs to work on it and it will be a while til it improves. He averaged 14 ppg in summer league but shot 37% from the field and 28% from 3P. Will be fun watching his development in the G League though.

[Pacers Forever]

I wish they had the cap space to add another vet minimum player to the back end or find a summer league prospect that has more potential than what they currently have.

Indy could save $50k against the tax by waiving Kendall Brown and signing a player to a vet minimum contract. Kendall has $0 gtd at this point.

But, what role could they sign that would get minutes? There’s log jams at the guards, PF, and C. If Nesmith/Mathurin/Walker play 3, and Furphy is to get even a handful of minutes this season, there’s a logjam there, too. I’m just not seeing a role to be filled that Brown doesn’t already fill?

Although, to me, this is more a potential argument to waive Brown and leave the 15th spot empty until January for 10 days and potential trade flexibility?

I would be happy with an open roster spot instead of Brown being kept on the roster after looking bad in SL.

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They both are eligible to sign a contract extension during the offseason, though the deadlines are different. McConnell could be extended any time between now and June 30 of next year — Jackson's deal can't add years anymore after October 21, so there are about three months to get a deal done.


T.J. McConnell (eligible for an extension for up to four years and up to $81 million)
McConnell can ink a deal that would tie him to Indiana until he is, at most, 37 years old. Indiana's future distance from the luxury tax is a big factor in any negotiations, and McConnell could make decent money as a free agent after another quality season. Other teams have reportedly shown interest in acquiring him before, but the Pacers love him.


Isaiah Jackson (eligible for an extension for up to five years and up to roughly $269 million)
Obviously, Jackson is not worth hundreds of millions in contract value, but he is eligible for a five-year extension up to his maximum salary, and that max could climb based on some escalators — just like what happened with teammate Tyrese Haliburton.
Jackson projects to be the Pacers backup center next season, and he could be a good fit long term. But tax concerns are relevant here, too, and Jackson may want to explore the free agent market for the first time in his career. That said, locking in a win-win deal early has become more of a trend for rookie-scale extensions in recent seasons.

The Pacers roster is currently full, but they have roster spots open in future seasons.

[Wizop]

Does this mean Oscar is gone as the other two-ways go to Newton and Freeman?

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[Scoot McGroot]

Does this mean Oscar is gone as the other two-ways go to Newton and Freeman?

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It doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

The two way QO is non guaranteed. And, they could sign Oscar, Freeman, and Newton to exhibit 10’s for camp, let them all compete, and then keep/convert whichever 3 they wish to keep as two ways and send the 4th packing.

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Newton, too.

[JMaster5K]

Kinda hoping that Oscar is willing to try to play overseas. He may not have the NBA combination of size and athleticism,... but there are a bunch of leagues in this world where he has the ability to be a very high level contributor on contending teams,... and many that would pay him a LOT more than the G-league.

[Wizop]

Bally is back on Comcast so that problem is over

[JMaster5K]

Only 2 way I have heard announced was during SL and it was Freeman.

That definitely not official, just an educated guess or assumption on the announcers part.

So not sure about the future of
Quenton Jackson
Tristan Newton
Oscar Tshiebwe

Yup. It’s essentially a 4 man race (those 3 and Freeman) competing for 3 spots. With the guaranteed salary on Wiseman and now the signing of James Johnson as an emergency big, I would assume there’s a real tough road for Oscar to take that spot. Though, he could take it and Jackson is moved on? Newton and Freeman definitely have the inside track as the newest additions, and having been drafted by the team.

I guess Freeman hasn't actually been signed?....

https://www.si.com/nba/pacers/roster/indiana-pacers-second-round-selection-enrique-freeman-one-of-last-unsigned-2024-draft-picks

I thought with the way he played in Summer League that he was the most likely to be signed to a two-way? Really hoping we do keep him.

[Scoot McGroot]

Only 2 way I have heard announced was during SL and it was Freeman.

That definitely not official, just an educated guess or assumption on the announcers part.

So not sure about the future of
Quenton Jackson
Tristan Newton
Oscar Tshiebwe

Yup. It’s essentially a 4 man race (those 3 and Freeman) competing for 3 spots. With the guaranteed salary on Wiseman and now the signing of James Johnson as an emergency big, I would assume there’s a real tough road for Oscar to take that spot. Though, he could take it and Jackson is moved on? Newton and Freeman definitely have the inside track as the newest additions, and having been drafted by the team.

I guess Freeman hasn't actually been signed?....

https://www.si.com/nba/pacers/roster/indiana-pacers-second-round-selection-enrique-freeman-one-of-last-unsigned-2024-draft-picks

I thought with the way he played in Summer League that he was the most likely to be signed to a two-way? Really hoping we do keep him.

It’s safe to assume he’ll be signed. The question is if it’ll be a straight two way or an exhibit 10 contract.

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Straight two way. Could still bring Oscar to camp as an exhibit 10, but Freeman, Jackson, and Newton are signed as two ways.

[Wizop]

Freeman getting the two-way over Oscar makes perfect sense to me. I assume the signing was delayed in case he replaced K-Brown on the regular roster, but Swider has now replaced Freeman as the competition for Brown's spot.