Young promising PG, very cheap.

Boneman2 · Post #1 » by **Boneman2** » Mon May 24, 2010 7:39 pm

Shaun Livingston is still only 24 years old and showed signs of life late last season when given a chance after the Arenas heist. The truth is when given the minutes he was very productive on a horrible Bullets team.

He should be awfully cheap making him a low risk/high reward individual. The best kind of acquisition IMO.

He closed the season averaging app 17 /4/ 7 ... 33+ mpg (app. 12 games)

I say we sign him asap. I'd go as high as 3-4 yrs 1 mill per, or possibly 3 yr 4 mill max.

Starkiller · Post #2 » by **Starkiller** » Mon May 24, 2010 8:13 pm

I agree, he was a big name when he was drafted and just had an awful knee injury. If he can rebound and it looks like he has, that's a great signing.

Dunthreevy · Post #3 » by **Dunthreevy** » Mon May 24, 2010 10:48 pm

I've been an advocate of Shaun Livingston's talent for a while now. We should definitely give him a look this summer and see if we can bring him in at a reasonable price. The kid is immensely talented and looks to have finally recovered from what was the gnarliest injury I've ever seen in basketball. He's a 6'7" pure PG with a 6'11" wingspan. Those don't grow on trees.

Donerik · Post #4 » by **Donerik** » Mon May 24, 2010 11:11 pm

If you can sign him and stay under the Luxury threshold then do it.

He could be real good. He is real big. He seems like the type of guy you pair with a real athletic combo guard.

Avery Bradley? Dominique Jones? can they defend point guards? we could afford a smaller 2 guard if we made this happen.

glasket · Post #5 » by **glasket** » Mon May 24, 2010 11:15 pm

I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.

Dunthreevy · Post #6 » by **Dunthreevy** » Mon May 24, 2010 11:49 pm

glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.

He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.

glasket · Post #7 » by **glasket** » Tue May 25, 2010 12:13 am

Dunthreevy wrote:
glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.

He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.

Ahh got him and Josh Childress confused.
Yes the Clippers, thank you

Dunthreevy · Post #8 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue May 25, 2010 12:27 am

glasket wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:
glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.

He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.

Ahh got him and Josh Childress confused.
Yes the Clippers, thank you

That's actually the first person I thought of when I was thinking who you may have him confused with. lol! They were drafted the same year, were both rail thin, light skinned black guys, with mini-fros.

Post #9 » by **PR07** » Tue May 25, 2010 2:00 am

I'd be okay with the move. He's better than anything we currently have.

Boneman2 · Post #10 » by **Boneman2** » Tue May 25, 2010 4:02 am

I know Darren Collison seems like a good fit, but I have a hard time trading away the pick, especially considering how depleted our roster will be.

Sure we could swap our pick for Collison, which is a fair swap, but I'd rather acquire Shaun for cheap and either draft b.p.a. at #10 or trade back for two 1st rounders.

Livingston/ Price?
X. Henry/Rush/Jones
Granger/ Dunleavy/Jones
Murphy/Hansbrough
Hibbert/Foster

After the draft we keep our options open with our expirings, hopefully concluding to use some of them to acquire a PF. Possibly Boozer in a S&T unless Utah wants to resign him (app. 4yr/40mill), in that case I'd take Milsap off their hands @ 7 mill for the next three years.

Finally we have options.

Moooose · Post #11 » by **Moooose** » Tue May 25, 2010 4:36 am

Same here. Livingston had some good games with the Wizards last season and he would be a good addition for the Pacers. He would surely get minutes here, with Price injured. Good idea.

laydo · Post #12 » by **laydo** » Tue May 25, 2010 6:29 am

Since he played really well at the end of last season, I think the Wizards might want to resign him back as a backup of John Wall.

Post #13 » by **PR07** » Tue May 25, 2010 6:33 am

People keep talking about Collison, but do we even know if New Orleans is willing to trade him for the #10 pick? With Paul not exactly an ironman, I'm not sure they'd be so eager to deal him.

Post #14 » by **Miller4ever** » Tue May 25, 2010 6:45 am

Yeah, CP3's injury woes make Collison very valuable to the Hornets.

Moooose · Post #15 » by **Moooose** » Tue May 25, 2010 7:28 am

I wouldn't trade Collison if I am the Hornets' GM. And i'm not expecting the Pacers could pursue him either.

Dunthreevy · Post #16 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue May 25, 2010 12:47 pm

People have been throwing Collison's name around A LOT and I honestly have no clue why. As well as he played, why in the world would the Hornets trade him away for practically nothing? It's not like he's on a bad contract and they're trying to move him for financial reasons. When you have a guy that good, and you're paying him peanuts, you don't trade him for a late lottery pick in a draft filled with role players.

Boneman2 · Post #17 » by **Boneman2** » Tue May 25, 2010 2:52 pm

A lot of New Orleans fans on the Trade Board seem to think his value is at its peak, which is why they throw his name out there. Having CP3 and Collison is a great problem to have, the only problem is that unlike other positions, the pg spot only has room for one starter. Neither would be an effective off-the-ball guard(2guard).

Indiana's #10 pick has been mentioned, by Hornets fans, if a player were available they liked.

I don't want to give up the pick, but unfortunately we have no pg. Which is why I started the Livingston thread.

Starkiller · Post #18 » by **Starkiller** » Tue May 25, 2010 3:46 pm

Since he was brought up in this thread, what about Josh Childress as a 2 guard? Isn't he wanting to come back to the NBA? Or would he cost too much for us?

Post #19 » by **mizzoupacers** » Tue May 25, 2010 4:57 pm

Most likely he would cost too much. The Pacers have to be worried about staying under the luxury tax threshold just with the guys they're already commited to paying next year (plus Tinsley, who still counts against the cap). Free agency isn't going to be an option (other than for minimum-salary types) until next summer.

Dunthreevy · Post #20 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue May 25, 2010 5:29 pm

I'm almost positive that Childress is still Atlanta's property technically. If he comes back, he would be a restricted free agent, so they would have first dibs on bringing him back. He would cost way too much for us anyway. We would have to overpay for him to come here, and that's IF we even had the money to do that, which we don't.