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Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:39 pm
by Boneman2
Shaun Livingston is still only 24 years old and showed signs of life late last season when given a chance after the Arenas heist. The truth is when given the minutes he was very productive on a horrible Bullets team.
He should be awfully cheap making him a low risk/high reward individual. The best kind of acquisition IMO.
He closed the season averaging app 17 /4/ 7 ... 33+ mpg (app. 12 games)
I say we sign him asap. I'd go as high as 3-4 yrs 1 mill per, or possibly 3 yr 4 mill max.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:13 pm
by Starkiller
I agree, he was a big name when he was drafted and just had an awful knee injury. If he can rebound and it looks like he has, that's a great signing.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:48 pm
by Dunthreevy
I've been an advocate of Shaun Livingston's talent for a while now. We should definitely give him a look this summer and see if we can bring him in at a reasonable price. The kid is immensely talented and looks to have finally recovered from what was the gnarliest injury I've ever seen in basketball. He's a 6'7" pure PG with a 6'11" wingspan. Those don't grow on trees.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:11 pm
by Donerik
If you can sign him and stay under the Luxury threshold then do it.
He could be real good. He is real big. He seems like the type of guy you pair with a real athletic combo guard.
Avery Bradley? Dominique Jones? can they defend point guards? we could afford a smaller 2 guard if we made this happen.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:15 pm
by glasket
I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:49 pm
by Dunthreevy
glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.
He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:13 am
by glasket
Dunthreevy wrote:glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.
He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.
Ahh got him and Josh Childress confused.
Yes the Clippers, thank you
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:27 am
by Dunthreevy
glasket wrote:Dunthreevy wrote:glasket wrote:I liked him when with the Hawks. Then lost track after his knee injury and return to the NBA
Great size obviously and I'd all for signing him, especially now we are desperate for a PG after Price's injury.
Low risk and high potential. Let's do it.
He never played for the Hawks. He was with the Clippers when he had the injury.
Ahh got him and Josh Childress confused.
Yes the Clippers, thank you
That's actually the first person I thought of when I was thinking who you may have him confused with. lol! They were drafted the same year, were both rail thin, light skinned black guys, with mini-fros.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:00 am
by PR07
I'd be okay with the move. He's better than anything we currently have.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:02 am
by Boneman2
I know Darren Collison seems like a good fit, but I have a hard time trading away the pick, especially considering how depleted our roster will be.
Sure we could swap our pick for Collison, which is a fair swap, but I'd rather acquire Shaun for cheap and either draft b.p.a. at #10 or trade back for two 1st rounders.
Livingston/ Price?
X. Henry/Rush/Jones
Granger/ Dunleavy/Jones
Murphy/Hansbrough
Hibbert/Foster
After the draft we keep our options open with our expirings, hopefully concluding to use some of them to acquire a PF. Possibly Boozer in a S&T unless Utah wants to resign him (app. 4yr/40mill), in that case I'd take Milsap off their hands @ 7 mill for the next three years.
Finally we have options.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:36 am
by Moooose
Same here. Livingston had some good games with the Wizards last season and he would be a good addition for the Pacers. He would surely get minutes here, with Price injured. Good idea.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:29 am
by laydo
Since he played really well at the end of last season, I think the Wizards might want to resign him back as a backup of John Wall.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:33 am
by PR07
People keep talking about Collison, but do we even know if New Orleans is willing to trade him for the #10 pick? With Paul not exactly an ironman, I'm not sure they'd be so eager to deal him.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:45 am
by Miller4ever
Yeah, CP3's injury woes make Collison very valuable to the Hornets.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:28 am
by Moooose
I wouldn't trade Collison if I am the Hornets' GM. And i'm not expecting the Pacers could pursue him either.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:47 pm
by Dunthreevy
People have been throwing Collison's name around A LOT and I honestly have no clue why. As well as he played, why in the world would the Hornets trade him away for practically nothing? It's not like he's on a bad contract and they're trying to move him for financial reasons. When you have a guy that good, and you're paying him peanuts, you don't trade him for a late lottery pick in a draft filled with role players.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:52 pm
by Boneman2
A lot of New Orleans fans on the Trade Board seem to think his value is at its peak, which is why they throw his name out there. Having CP3 and Collison is a great problem to have, the only problem is that unlike other positions, the pg spot only has room for one starter. Neither would be an effective off-the-ball guard(2guard).
Indiana's #10 pick has been mentioned, by Hornets fans, if a player were available they liked.
I don't want to give up the pick, but unfortunately we have no pg. Which is why I started the Livingston thread.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:46 pm
by Starkiller
Since he was brought up in this thread, what about Josh Childress as a 2 guard? Isn't he wanting to come back to the NBA? Or would he cost too much for us?
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:57 pm
by mizzoupacers
Most likely he would cost too much. The Pacers have to be worried about staying under the luxury tax threshold just with the guys they're already commited to paying next year (plus Tinsley, who still counts against the cap). Free agency isn't going to be an option (other than for minimum-salary types) until next summer.
Re: Young promising PG, very cheap.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:29 pm
by Dunthreevy
I'm almost positive that Childress is still Atlanta's property technically. If he comes back, he would be a restricted free agent, so they would have first dibs on bringing him back. He would cost way too much for us anyway. We would have to overpay for him to come here, and that's IF we even had the money to do that, which we don't.