#10 for Lawson?

[granger05]

From Chad Ford's latest

A number of NBA sources are telling me that the Denver Nuggets are in the hunt for a Top 10 pick. Nuggets GM Mark Warkentein has been calling around trying to gauge interest in teams selling the pick. According to sources Warkentein is offering Ty Lawson for the pick. A Nuggets source said the Nuggets are looking for big man to fill up their front line. Several bigs including Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, Ekpe Udoh, Patrick Patterson, Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside could be there at 10.

People keep talking about Collison, but I like Lawson a little better. Plus, if all it took was the #10 that seems like a screaming deal to me. His minutes were a bit limited behind Billups this year, but he started 8 games and here are his numbers:
17ppg
5.9apg versus 1.8tos
and he shot almost 57% from the field and 39% from three

I'd make that deal.

[Wizop]

bet you could get a pick or two back as well.

[Starkiller]

Ehh, not the best thing we could get, but far from the worst. I think in these kinds of situations you take something like that, as it's not a perfect world and you aren't gonn get the best scenario for you.

[basketballwacko2]

Ty is the guy we should have picked last year!

[Miller4ever]

Compare the statistics. Tyler did more in less time than Ty per game. Yeah, we could've used a PG, but TJ was supposed to be solid. We weren't scrambling for a PG as much as we are now.

[jarrettjackfan]

I would love to trade for Lawson, but I don't think Denver would deal Lawson for the tenth overall pick straight up. As long as we don't have to give up more than just the #10 pick, and say a Brandon Rush type of player, then I would be all for making this deal, but if we have to give up much more than that, then I would say that we'd be overpaying....that's just my opinion though.

[basketballwacko2]

I would love to trade for Lawson, but I don't think Denver would deal Lawson for the tenth overall pick straight up. As long as we don't have to give up more than just the #10 pick, and say a Brandon Rush type of player, then I would be all for making this deal, but if we have to give up much more than that, then I would say that we'd be overpaying....that's just my opinion though.

If they could get Udoh they would! I am expecting a big restructuring in Denver in the next 2 yrs they may clean house since they can't seem to bust out and win it all.

[8305]

I would give pick 10 for Lawson. But, I like Collison better and I think Eric Maynor might have just as much promise as Lawson. I don't think its a wild stretch to think Denver, Ok City and New Orleans could all covet pick 10.

When the Pacers say they will not be drafting at pick 10 I wonder if that's indicative of interest shown by all three of those teams in the pick?

[Crossova21]

Does anyone know if New Orleans or OKC are actually considering to trade their backup PG for the 10th pick? I haven't heard or seen anything that says they are.

[8305]

Can't say that I've read anything. Ok City is looking for a shot blocking center. Maybe Whiteside, Udoh or Aldrich? New Orleans could use both a wing and a third big and those needs are probably more pressing than backup point guard. Can't say that I know what sacrifice either is willing to make to fill those needs.

[fienX420]

i actually kinda love this idea.

[MUpacersSIC]

On the ESPN Rumors page it has three different "rumors" involving the Pacers all concerning the 10th pick for a PG. The three teams wanting to move up to #10 are San Antonio (George Hill and Tony Parker), New Orleans (Darren Collison), and Denver (Ty Lawson). To me it seems that we have options and we could get almost any of these players with the 10th pick. I think we can get Lawson outright for the pick, but the others would take something more, or getting something in return too. If I had a choice this would be my preferred list:

1.) Darren Collison
2.) Ty Lawson
3.) Tony Parker
4.) George Hill (I'm not sure we would give up #10 for him, there would have to be something else coming in IMO)

I'd be very happy with either of the first two PG's. I think both could run this team and drastically improve our PG spot. Plus they both have potential to be all-stars in the East. Obviously not next year, but maybe in a few years. We'll just have to wait and see!

[xpmar9x]

Good Idea for Pacer fans. #10 for Ty Lawson.

Lawson - Ford - Price
Rush - Jones
Granger - Dunleavy
Hansbrough - Murphy - McRoberts
Hibbert - Foster

Draft:
#40 -> SG/SF
#57 -> PF

[8305]

On the ESPN Rumors page it has three different "rumors" involving the Pacers all concerning the 10th pick for a PG. The three teams wanting to move up to #10 are San Antonio (George Hill and Tony Parker), New Orleans (Darren Collison), and Denver (Ty Lawson). To me it seems that we have options and we could get almost any of these players with the 10th pick. I think we can get Lawson outright for the pick, but the others would take something more, or getting something in return too. If I had a choice this would be my preferred list:

1.) Darren Collison
2.) Ty Lawson
3.) Tony Parker
4.) George Hill (I'm not sure we would give up #10 for him, there would have to be something else coming in IMO)

I'd be very happy with either of the first two PG's. I think both could run this team and drastically improve our PG spot. Plus they both have potential to be all-stars in the East. Obviously not next year, but maybe in a few years. We'll just have to wait and see!

You would like to think if all these teams are intersted the value of pick 10 goes up and the value of the point guards goes down. Does that mean these scenarios are reasonable?

Collison and Posey for Ford and pick 10 (Collison is worth a little more than pick 10 alone)
Lawson for pick 10 and salary filler (Maybe S. Jones)
Parker and pick 21 for Murphy and pick 10
HIll and pick 21 for pick 10 and S. Jones

Most trades of this nature have had the Pacers sending back more value than this. Could the laws of supply and demand be working in our favor?

[Boneman2]

If it is gonna cost us our pick, I'd rather just acquire Shaun Livingston. He showed just as much skill as any of them last season.

Before I'd give this pick up, I'd just tank next season and get Irving or Knight.

Honestly what sounds better Ty Lawson for #10, or Conley, 12, 25 for Rush 10, 40.

There are other pg's available that wouldn't require us to move completely out of the draft.

[Wizop]

There are other pg's available that wouldn't require us to move completely out of the draft.

just because the rumors out there so far don't include lower picks coming back, don't assume that we're not demanding that. rumors often reflect one team's wish rather than a balanced proposal.

[nyqua11]

Compare the statistics. Tyler did more in less time than Ty per game. Yeah, we could've used a PG, but TJ was supposed to be solid. We weren't scrambling for a PG as much as we are now.

He also shot 36%. He's a PF. That's horrible.

And Lawson had more win shares.

[Miller4ever]

You get more win shares if you play more and win more.

Also, Tyler grabbed his own misses, negating some of his shooting crappiness.

I will admit 36% is really bad. I'm not trying to argue that Tyler is better than Lawson, I'm just trying to argue that Hansbrough wasn't a mistake.

[Boneman2]

^^^ I agree

[MUpacersSIC]

Yeah, people need to stop with the Hansbrough was a mistake statement. The guy only played like 20 some games this season, and from what I saw he looked pretty damn good when he was playing. Did you guys actually watch the games??? Sometimes I wonder. You do realize that he played more games than the #1 pick Blake Griffin right? Injuries happen, it's apart of the game. Don't give up on a guy before he has even played 30 games in the league. Hansbrough got to the line almost at will and that is are VERY good sign. So, back off a little and let's see what he does this season before we declare him a bad pick. Trust me, we could have done much much worse than Hansbrough, you know the guy who was the former national player of the year and maybe one of the greatest collegiate players ever. I'm not saying that means everything, but don't give up on the guy so soon.