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T-Wolves turn down Pacers offer of the 10th pick for PG Jonny Flynn.

kdawg531 wrote:Was just going to post this. Good to see we're being active, but if we can't get Johnny Flynn for the 10th pick, how could we possibly get either Lawson or Collison for the #10? This concerns me a bit...

kdawg531 wrote:Was just going to post this. Good to see we're being active, but if we can't get Johnny Flynn for the 10th pick, how could we possibly get either Lawson or Collison for the #10? This concerns me a bit...

Dunthreevy wrote:

kdawg531 wrote:Was just going to post this. Good to see we're being active, but if we can't get Johnny Flynn for the 10th pick, how could we possibly get either Lawson or Collison for the #10? This concerns me a bit...

Flynn put up superior numbers than Lawson and pretty much identical numbers as Collison.

MNRunLeft wrote:

Dunthreevy wrote:

kdawg531 wrote:Was just going to post this. Good to see we're being active, but if we can't get Johnny Flynn for the 10th pick, how could we possibly get either Lawson or Collison for the #10? This concerns me a bit...

Flynn put up superior numbers than Lawson and pretty much identical numbers as Collison.

Not to mention the fact that Flynn played with less talent around him than Lawson certainly and probably Collison as well even when Paul was out.

Starkiller wrote:Let them have Ford, why the hell not, he is useless to us.

kdawg531 wrote:I apologize, I should start looking up stats more often before I make a post on someone.

shrink wrote:For example, let me run some guestimations of an Indiana trade. I don't have time to do all the math, and they have a number of partially guaranteed or non-guaranteed deals, which would need to be replaced with roster holds, so let me just make some blanket estimates, and I hopefully won't get IND fans too mad at me.

Let's assume that after IND signs their #10 pick and fills out their roster, they are at $69 mil and the lux threshold is $66 mil. We offer them this "

Sessions + Gomes + #23 for TJ Ford + #10.

If they don't do the deal, their payroll is $75 mil ($69 + $3 for lux + $3 for lus share)

If they do this deal, they:

Save $3.3 mil in salary difference after waiving Gomes
Save $1.0 mil in salary difference from picks (after 120% raises)
Save $3.0 mil in luxury tax
Save $3.0 mil by retaining their lux share
$10.3 mil in total savings.

Now, its never fun to trade down a pick, but getting a young PG to grow with the team, moving TJ Ford to create the minutes, getting the #23 and saving over $10 mil might be worthwhile.

Dunthreevy wrote:

kdawg531 wrote:I apologize, I should start looking up stats more often before I make a post on someone.

They're pretty good indicators of how good a player is/can be.

Charcoal Filtered wrote:@WojYahooNBA: Minnesota offering Jonny Flynn and two first-round picks (16 and 23) to Indiana for a package that includes the 10th pick.
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Starkiller wrote:

Charcoal Filtered wrote:@WojYahooNBA: Minnesota offering Jonny Flynn and two first-round picks (16 and 23) to Indiana for a package that includes the 10th pick.
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I like that idea, because the package won't include Danny or Roy. Do it.

J_Ray wrote:It just says a package including the #10 pick. If that is the case, I'm sure there was robbery somewhere along in that package. Also Flynn put up horrible efficiency numbers, and just put up #'s because he was on Minnesota. If you look at the +/- stats, T'Wolves were a winning team with Sessions in with the starters and Flynn on the pine. There's a reason for that, and Flynn was a reach last year. Flynn is a 5'10" combo guard pretty much and wouldn't bring anything different from what T.J. Ford does.