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Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 1:55 pm
by PerkinsFor3
Rudy Fernandez continues to lobby for a trade to New York, but the Knicks either can't or won't make a trade for the Portland shooting guard.

According to a team source, Knicks president Donnie Walsh recently rejected a three-team deal that would have sent Anthony Randolph to Indiana, a first-round pick to Portland and Fernandez to New York.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/index.html

Wow... sounded great...

Collison
Rush
Granger
Randolph
Hibbert


Sick! Do you think the Pacers will try to get Randolph from the Knicks once more now?

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 3:02 pm
by Miller4ever
Hmm...

Because I believe that our pick is going to be lower than 17th, it seems like a great deal.

If Fernandez isn't involved, I could see one of our many wings getting shipped to the Knicks. Maybe Dunleavy's expiring would help with NY's space for Carmelo?

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 3:26 pm
by moocow007
The Knicks aren't going to trade Randolph in a deal like this.

To give you guys an idea of how much Walsh values Randolph, Walsh reportedly wanted to draft Randolph over Gallinari in the 2008 draft and it was only after insistence of Mike D'Antoni (no surprise there) and a couple of their international scouts that he acquiesced and went with Gallinari. Walsh was absolutely gushing about Randolph after he acquired him from the Warriors in the David Lee S&T.

Also recent indications (which have the Knicks willingness to include Gallinari over Randolph in initial Melo proposals) would be a sign that Walsh still prefers Randolph over Gallinari. Considering that and that I would highly doubt that Walsh would trade Gallinari for Fernandez straight up, even less likely that he'd trade Randolph to get Fernandez.

Of course this makes sense for the Pacers (for the reasons you said) and why they probably were ok with this, but this is a Cho fantasy special.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 5:18 pm
by Boneman2
Moocow,

How do you see AR fitting into the frontcourt with Amare. I guess you could get away with AR @4 & AS @ 5 or 4. Randolph cannot go up or down imo, and at the end of the day he is still a weak 4. All Pacer fans know that we need a powerful player at the 4, which instantly makes Tyler a better option.

As far as Walsh gushing about his new arrival, it is also a ploy he uses to drive up trade value because obviously he'd like to flip AR (backup) into a starter.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 8:52 pm
by PR07
What a shame. I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of LSU, haven't really seen him play though in the pros more than a handful of minutes though.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2010 9:46 pm
by Grang33r
PR07 wrote:What a shame. I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of LSU, haven't really seen him play though in the pros more than a handful of minutes though.


Agreed. I was one of the few people here that really wanted Randolph the year he was drafted, but obviously he went quick. And I still like his game. The big draw back then was he was very raw, which I still think is the case, but i think this is a similar situation to Jermaine O'Neal before coming here, Randolph is on the verge of breaking out. I really hope Pacers can work something out to get him, i think that would be an excellent piece to our team. I do think it's gonna take a lot more then Rudy Fernandez to get him unless something dramatic happens and Isiah Thomas takes over the Knicks again.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:13 am
by Marty McFly
Boneman2 wrote:Moocow,

How do you see AR fitting into the frontcourt with Amare. I guess you could get away with AR @4 & AS @ 5 or 4. Randolph cannot go up or down imo, and at the end of the day he is still a weak 4. All Pacer fans know that we need a powerful player at the 4, which instantly makes Tyler a better option.

As far as Walsh gushing about his new arrival, it is also a ploy he uses to drive up trade value because obviously he'd like to flip AR (backup) into a starter.


1) that is a problem we have. IMO if we're going to deal randolph it better be for a better fit of/or near equal or better value.

2) randolph is one of the best prospect in the game. ploy? i think not. what is it with the trailblazers and delusional GM'S.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:16 am
by Indy2thaWindy
REVOLVER wrote:1) that is a problem we have. IMO if we're going to deal randolph it better be for a better fit of/or near equal value.

2) randolph is one of the best prospect in the game, ploy? i think not.


Didn't you say you wouldn't trade Randolph for anybody on the Pacers?

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:17 am
by Marty McFly
Indy2thaWindy wrote:
REVOLVER wrote:1) that is a problem we have. IMO if we're going to deal randolph it better be for a better fit of/or near equal value.

2) randolph is one of the best prospect in the game, ploy? i think not.


Didn't you say you wouldn't trade Randolph for anybody on the Pacers?


yeah i did. and your question has what to do with my post? I'd rather see what we have in gallinari as a our perimeter go to guy.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:24 am
by Indy2thaWindy
yeah, I thought so.

REVOVLER on the Knicks board wrote:...their is no one on the pacers i'd deal dolph for. no, not even granger.


You should probly go back to playin homer on the Knicks board.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 2:40 am
by Marty McFly
you thought what? what i reiterated a post before your weak ass attempt at pwning? i wouldn't cause i like what we got. what's the problem with that?

I'm supposed to gush over this **** deal? :lol:

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 2:45 am
by Indy2thaWindy
You like what you got? Knicks haven't had a winning record in how long, yet you like what you got?
Knicks remind me of the Raptors last year. Almost good enough to make the playoffs. But you don't want to make any moves.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 2:48 am
by Indy2thaWindy
REVOLVER wrote:you thought what? what i reiterated a post before your weak ass attempt at pwning? i wouldn't cause i like what we got. what's the problem with that?

I'm supposed to gush over this **** deal? :lol:


whats that?

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 3:38 am
by Miller4ever
I think it's a shame we can't discuss things like adults sometimes.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:37 am
by Indy2thaWindy
What if another team like the Raptors were added

New York gets Fernandez and Indiana's 1st

Toronto gets Rush and Indiana's 2nd

Portland gets Miami's 1st, TPE and New York's 2nd

Indiana gets Magic Randolph

I think this works better for all the teams.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:54 am
by Gremz
Randolph is not worth a 1st, a 2nd AND Rush.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 12:53 pm
by 8305
Gremz wrote:Randolph is not worth a 1st, a 2nd AND Rush.


Agree

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 2:20 pm
by Daaaarryyl
Indy2thaWindy wrote:You like what you got? Knicks haven't had a winning record in how long, yet you like what you got?



I'm not sure I follow you. Because the team has been bad you cannot like any of their moves? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever...

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 3:55 pm
by clowds
8305 wrote:
Gremz wrote:Randolph is not worth a 1st, a 2nd AND Rush.


Agree



LOL. fools.

Re: Anthony Randolph to Ind blocked by Walsh

Posted: Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:04 pm
by Gremz
clowds wrote:
8305 wrote:
Gremz wrote:Randolph is not worth a 1st, a 2nd AND Rush.


Agree



LOL. fools.


You know what, you're right. I have no idea why I posted that.