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Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:04 am
by chube
Obviously, Hansbrough is the biggest victim of JOB's screwy rotation and has his minutes jerked around from game to game, even though I think I saw that Indy is 0-4 or 0-5 (something like that) when he gets a DNP-CD.

Anyway, for some reason, I haven't gotten the Fox Sports Indiana feed for the last few games on my NBA League Pass subscription. I was talking to a friend who still lives in Indiana who watches the FSI feeds and apparently they gave some explanation/theory as to why Hansbrough doesn't play on the road, but she couldn't remember what all they said.

Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 7:51 am
by aquatic92
That's not funny, and if you're serious, that's even worse.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 12:59 pm
by jowglenn
I think we could use him strategically a lot better. He picks up fouls well, we should try to use him when an opposing big man is close to foul trouble, and just have him throw himself into the guy.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 1:42 pm
by Wizop
solo is playing better and Posey has solidified his position.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 3:06 pm
by colts2004
Whats up with people pulling the race card?

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 4:53 pm
by Starkiller
I hate seeing red text. Not because something innappropriate was posted, but because I missed what it originially posted and now I'm curious LOL.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 5:12 pm
by jowglenn
Starkiller wrote:I hate seeing red text. Not because something innappropriate was posted, but because I missed what it originially posted and now I'm curious LOL.


For reference, he basically said, "we should stop playing all these **** white players! go (and listed all the black players on the team)"

Yeah, you didn't miss much.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 5:36 pm
by colts2004
No, Starkiller, you didnt miss much. We just need to play the best athletes on the team no matter if they are white, black, blue or green

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:01 pm
by captaincrunk
colts2004 wrote:No, Starkiller, you didnt miss much. We just need to play the best athletes on the team no matter if they are white, black, blue or green

If you guys ahve a blue player somewhere in that lineup, paint him with yellow stripes and get him on the court now!

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:29 pm
by Starkiller
captaincrunk wrote:
colts2004 wrote:No, Starkiller, you didnt miss much. We just need to play the best athletes on the team no matter if they are white, black, blue or green

If you guys ahve a blue player somewhere in that lineup, paint him with yellow stripes and get him on the court now!


Let's start Boomer at PF.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 8:13 pm
by Boneman2
I was talking to a friend who still lives in Indiana who watches the FSI feeds and apparently they gave some explanation/theory as to why Hansbrough doesn't play on the road, but she couldn't remember what all they said.


Chube. Quinn Buckner thinks it's because Tyler is still a rookie, in terms of missing 2/3 rds of his rookie season.

I don't buy it because Tyler came out the gate producing respectable per minute averages. Now he hardly plays. Trying to comprehend Jim's thought process is quite irritating.

When you draft seniors (Rush/Roy/Granger/ Tyler) you should expect they wouldn't need as much time to get up to speed.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 8:25 pm
by Miller4ever
Tyler doesn't execute Obie's offense very well. He makes up for it through effort, but Posey is a better fit in O'Brien's opinion. It's an iffy call. There are a lot of opponents we play where hustle boards and grabbing 50/50 balls count. Hansbrough showed his ability to perform in the 4th quarters against Charlotte. He is one of the few Pacers who doesn't seem to back down in crunch time.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2010 10:21 pm
by glasket
its a combination of Solo playing decently well and Posey being a better fit becuase of his greater offensive game/3pt shooting. Both of these guys have eaten into Tyler's minutes.

Tyler is still learning the system and defence (he was out most of his rookie year) so I think in time his playing time increases. At least I hope so.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:38 pm
by jcodbf2
I dont understand anything about JOB.. I do think however that the Pacers will always be a weak team with him as the coach. It doesnt matter if they win 45 games.. they will be a weak 45 win team. They will make 10+ threes one night and win then the next night make less than 10 threes and lose. Thats the key to the Pacers.. if they arent making 3 pointers its almost impossible for them to win. ( In 10 wins they make 10+ in 9 Losses they make 7 on averages AND the Pacers have only won 3 or so games when making less than 10 3 pointers ).

Posey is only shooting 33% from 3 this year.. In all honesty I think Hansbrough could shoot 33% from 3. Tylers offensive game has improved a lot I think since last season. Before his minutes took a nosedive he was shooting over 60% from the field ( at 51% now ) and JOB sits him down to have a 33% chance at a 3 pointer with Posey ( Posey is only shooting 35% from the field overall ).

I am not even going to bring up Per 36.. Ok I will.. 15 / 8 for Tyler + 3.5 ORebounds ( more than anyone on the team .. Hibbert at 3.4 )

Its insanity to be honest.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:58 pm
by Indy2thaWindy
jcodbf2 wrote:I dont understand anything about JOB.. I do think however that the Pacers will always be a weak team with him as the coach. It doesnt matter if they win 45 games.. they will be a weak 45 win team. They will make 10+ threes one night and win then the next night make less than 10 threes and lose. Thats the key to the Pacers.. if they arent making 3 pointers its almost impossible for them to win. ( In 10 wins they make 10+ in 9 Losses they make 7 on averages AND the Pacers have only won 3 or so games when making less than 10 3 pointers ).

Posey is only shooting 33% from 3 this year.. In all honesty I think Hansbrough could shoot 33% from 3. Tylers offensive game has improved a lot I think since last season. Before his minutes took a nosedive he was shooting over 60% from the field ( at 51% now ) and JOB sits him down to have a 33% chance at a 3 pointer with Posey ( Posey is only shooting 35% from the field overall ).

I am not even going to bring up Per 36.. Ok I will.. 15 / 8 for Tyler + 3.5 ORebounds ( more than anyone on the team .. Hibbert at 3.4 )

Its insanity to be honest.


You can't use Per 36 for a player like Tyler, Because he shouldn't even come close to 36 minutes per game. Maybe later, but not this season

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:08 pm
by Miller4ever
The record kind of speaks for itself regarding Hansbrough. +/- is one thing, but in terms of win shares and efficient shooting, AJ Price and Hansbrough should be seeing way more time on the floor. And it wasn't like Price's minutes were useless, either.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:18 pm
by Solid
It's just inexcusable to give up 43 points to 6'4 guards and have your only 6' + PG (and best defender) in dress shoes.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:25 pm
by jcodbf2
Indy2thaWindy wrote:
jcodbf2 wrote:
I am not even going to bring up Per 36.. Ok I will.. 15 / 8 for Tyler + 3.5 ORebounds ( more than anyone on the team .. Hibbert at 3.4 )

Its insanity to be honest.


You can't use Per 36 for a player like Tyler, Because he shouldn't even come close to 36 minutes per game. Maybe later, but not this season


What about when he was getting almost 20 per? It was the same then. Then he was like 4th in the EC among PFs. I think Per 36 is useful because Tyler is pretty consistent in his playing time. IMHO.

Miller4ever wrote:The record kind of speaks for itself regarding Hansbrough. +/- is one thing, but in terms of win shares and efficient shooting, AJ Price and Hansbrough should be seeing way more time on the floor. And it wasn't like Price's minutes were useless, either.


Same. I am about tired of seeing Ford drive into the lane - jump and have nowhere to go and then turn the ball over.

Re: Psycho T's playing time

Posted: Thu Dec 9, 2010 12:39 am
by Miller4ever
He was good about that for a while, and then dropped right back into it. His shooting numbers are god-awful. I'm not blaming him for losses yet, because he's doing his job, but 36% shooting probably should get AJ Price a hard look.