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How about Zach Randolph in free agency? Put Hibbert on the high post and Zach on the block. Hard to guard.

Randolph has a history, but given what is available he is the creme of the crop. Randolph would also come at a discount, but in the end his history is what the Pacers don't want.

Me personally, I'd give him 3yr/10-12 per because I think Zach has finally matured somewhat. Maybe the drug-bust a few yrs back scared him a bit. I think he finally understands what is at stake, and has cut some of his negative ties.

We have needed a low-post threat every since JO decided to become a SF. Hibbert is good at times, but he is getting beat down without someone to do the dirty end. Randolph is gritty enough.

My dream PF has become KLove. You never know, if/when Minny balks he could be had (dreaming). Maybe Stern could thicken the 'Next Larry Bird plot by sending Love to Indy under the tutelage of Larry Legend.

^^That would make me do every possible thing in my pants at the same time, and then I would take those soiled pants off and run around on the street for a couple of miles.

Careful on Love.. He wants out of Minny and is trying to make himself look as good as possible. Dont fall in 'love' with the stats.

jcodbf2 wrote:Careful on Love.. He wants out of Minny and is trying to make himself look as good as possible. Dont fall in 'love' with the stats.

Well played.....

Although 30/30 is quite tempting

The fact that he can't play good D is a fact I'm willing to overlook if he becomes the result of our capspace somehow.

Don't like Love.
If you get to draft a good offensive guy who doesn't bother to D up he may well be the bpa. If you have to purchase him on the open market then he will be overpriced every time because "we" are so enamored by stats. His poor D rubs off on his team mates and soon, like Murphy, he's looking good on paper but his team sucks.

I'd take his opposite every time. Okafor for example. All D poor O. Usually that sort of guy is cheaper, a better influence on team chemistry, and more wins result.

I could maybe deal with Zach.
Prefer West and OK, or Nene.

Love is WAY better than Murphy.

Yeah Love is better but O is expensive and without D doesn't win against serious teams.

We don't need a 20/ 12 guy who rests on half the court... esp if we have to give up core players or pay exorbitant $$ - which we would.

We need Dale Davis, Charles Oakley...Okafor.

And or a good all-around guy who plays both ends and has a good mid-range game (west).


We could likely get both those guys for what it would cost to land Love, and we would be a WAY better team.

Poor D is a spreading cancer that we are just beginning to recover from. We could ignore it if we had great D players around him (Love), we do not.

Solid wrote:And or a good all-around guy who plays both ends and has a good mid-range game (west).

Glen Davis is younger and cheaper. His D is a little weaker, but he's a better team defender than Okafor and defends the more mobile 4's.

If Baby'd lose thirty lbs he could be good.If he works out with Hibb next summer I'm all for him.
But he's short and doesn't have long arms like West. I want someone to cover the guys too big for Tyler and too quick for Hib.

Ok's not real athletic but he's a strong presence in the lane and a strong rebounder. Costs too much but I'd eat his contract if we got West with him. Between the two of them we could cover almost anyone, and add a real nice scoring option.

I see Okafor as too much of a center for me, but I love the cost-effective idea of Glen Davis in free agency as a PF option for Indy. Great addition, not too expensive, but VERY useful.

See, the reason Okafor is interesting is because, yes, he is very comfortable at the 5. That could be a great thing though. Someone like him or Nene could start at the 4 and spell Roy when he sits. Then, slide in McBob or Hansbrough or whoever into the 4 off the bench.

Love : 20.9/ 15.6 / .4 blk
Okafor: 10.3/ 9.6/ 1.9 blks

Okafor makes roughly 14-15 mill per over the next few seasons. If KLove could be had for similar money than I'd take the low-post offense, and Dennis Rodman like rebounding capabilities. If his next deal is based off of similar players/production then David Lee got 13/per and Al Horford got 12/per. So actually he could be a little cheaper.

I'd argue that we are worse off with our post offense, over our post defense. Roy is capable of being an elite shot-blocker, he averages more than Emeka. Hibbert needs a player to body the stronger players up and Love is capable of that, allowing him to focus on weak-side help. One thing our team sorely lacks is the inability to rely on high percentage shots, when we do try Roy gets beat down. Okafor wouldn't help with his Dale Davis type offensive skill-set. Kevin would draw double-teams in the post

The Murphy comparisons are off base because Love doesn't stand around the perimeter, he puts in work in the paint, obviously. To me he is a lot more like David Lee, I like him.

For the love of Reggie get us Love.

I know I sound fixated on KLove but only because he could be available, and we could afford him.

We're dealing with the same team that traded Al Jefferson for two late firsts and capspace, then acquired Beasley for capspace.

Ultimately, KLove stated that he was unhappy and wouldn't mind being traded.

Kevin Love and David Lee are both great players that go in the Zach Randolph category of not really being worth the money, but only by that much.

Miller4ever wrote:Kevin Love and David Lee are both great players that go in the Zach Randolph category of not really being worth the money, but only by that much.

I understand the other two but Kevin Love isn't worth the money? How so?

I meant Al Jefferson.

It's easy to get them confused, they look alike.

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Miller4ever wrote:I meant Al Jefferson.

It's easy to get them confused, they look alike.

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Racist.