Tyler Hansborough prospectus....

DWCP2 · Post #1 » by **DWCP2** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:39 am

Got three choices and it would help when you select the one you do, please mention why...

DWCP2 · Post #2 » by **DWCP2** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:43 am

Tyler Hansborough at his current pace would be a 20-10 star on virtually any team in the league and those don't belong on the bench coming in. He's slowly proving he can handle anything thrown at him and proving people wrong.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #3 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:47 am

He's putting those numbers up on a bad team tho.

I don't think everybodies ready to call Kris Humphries a full time starter on most teams in the league either.

I still see him as a part time starter, 6th man on a good team.

Post #4 » by **Gremz** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:48 am

6th Man extraordinaire. I would hope that help arrives during the off season as while he is playing well, I don't want his being relied upon to play 38mpg.

paulgeorge24 · Post #5 » by **paulgeorge24** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:41 am

The way he's playing and with the people currently playing behind him, fulltime starter.

BUT

I'm not sold that he would be able to maintain his style of play while taking on starter's minutes for 82 games + ~1month or so in the playoffs. A 6th man role is where I think he will find himself on a good team. Kind of like Al Harrington, very capable of scoring when called upon, but not a starter on a good team, especially if we can take advantage of our cap situation in getting a 4.

chube · Post #6 » by **chube** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:02 am

Like it was said above, he seems to get winded after getting a lot of run (and since we like his energy throughout the meat of the game, he burns a lot of energy then and not as full for the home stretch.)

So, my guess, is that he moves back to the bench next year and once the Pacers get more respect in the league, he becomes a perennial 6th Man of The Year candidate.

Boneman2 · Post #7 » by **Boneman2** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:18 am

There is just something about him. Since we drafted him I was content thinking that he'd eventually replace Foster's high energetic play.

I could see us getting a third big capable of playing the 4&5. Regardless of who starts, if we had one more effective big there would be enough minutes (32 mpg avg) for a three man rotation consisiting of Hib, Tyler & whoever.

I hope Tyler has a long career in Indy. His tenacity reminds me of Ron Artest back when Ronnie was breaking through. I love physical players, and Tyler is no exception.

Post #8 » by **Miller4ever** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:29 am

Draft Ben Hansbrough.

jcodbf2 · Post #9 » by **jcodbf2** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:02 am

If he keeps playing the way he has been from now until the end of the season... Starter. I am sure he will have some more stinkers though since he IS virtually a rookie. Though he has been automatic lately with getting double figures.

He was definitely winded against the Knicks.. He played 40 out of 48 minutes and barely got a breather in the second half which caused him to have a couple bad shots.

Wizop · Post #10 » by **Wizop** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:46 am

think David Lee

Indy4Life · Post #11 » by **Indy4Life** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:44 pm

I think he is a legit player in the NBA. He isn't a Super-Star but he is the type of player every team would love to have. He does the little things, he hustles, and he shows up every night.

Having someone who can get to the line, run the floor, play a physical in your face defense, and isn't afraid to put himself on the floor...That is what I want.

To me - Starter or reserve makes no difference. I do want him in at the end of the game and on the floor for 30 minutes every night.

Even when his shots aren't falling he is an asset to the squad...there aren't enough players that you can say that about.

Post #12 » by **mizzoupacers** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:03 pm

I think he's looking more and more like he will be a pretty good NBA starter.

I'm not opposed to an upgrade at power forward, if the Pacers can find one. But I'm not sure any more that power forward is the weakest link in the starting five.

Boneman2 · Post #13 » by **Boneman2** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:14 pm

Tyler isn't your typical 4-year college player, where he peaks around his senior year, he was a four time all-american. How many guys can say that?

Seriously this guy competes at a different level, and because of that he is able to overcome his disadvantages. What really does it for him is the jumper (18-20 ft. range), if he can continuously hit that shot then he has a chance to be an 18/8 type player. I won't give him style points on his post offense, it's not pretty but you gotta do whatcha gotta do.

Post #14 » by **Miller4ever** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:05 pm

Indy4Life wrote:I think he is a legit player in the NBA. He isn't a Super-Star but he is the type of player every team would love to have. He does the little things, he hustles, and he shows up every night.

Having someone who can get to the line, run the floor, play a physical in your face defense, and isn't afraid to put himself on the floor...That is what I want.

To me - Starter or reserve makes no difference. I do want him in at the end of the game and on the floor for 30 minutes every night.

Even when his shots aren't falling he is an asset to the squad...there aren't enough players that you can say that about.

Well said. This mirrors my opinion as well.

8305 · Post #15 » by **8305** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:14 pm

Indy4Life wrote:I think he is a legit player in the NBA. He isn't a Super-Star but he is the type of player every team would love to have. He does the little things, he hustles, and he shows up every night.

Having someone who can get to the line, run the floor, play a physical in your face defense, and isn't afraid to put himself on the floor...That is what I want.

To me - Starter or reserve makes no difference. I do want him in at the end of the game and on the floor for 30 minutes every night.

Even when his shots aren't falling he is an asset to the squad...there aren't enough players that you can say that about.

Yeah, this says it pretty well for me too. Couple of other points I agree with:
1. I don't see power forward as the most critical need position of the 5 starting positions. I think we have much bigger questions at point guard.
2. A long athlete who could play both the 4 and 5 would be the perfect addtion to our front court. Unfortunately those guys are pretty rare.

paulgeorge24 · Post #16 » by **paulgeorge24** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:39 pm

mizzoupacers wrote:I think he's looking more and more like he will be a pretty good NBA starter.

I'm not opposed to an upgrade at power forward, if the Pacers can find one. But I'm not sure any more that power forward is the weakest link in the starting five.

OOOOO calling out Collison????? :lol:

Collison will be fine when we actually start running some offense, its been beaten into the ground in various threads so ill avoid hijacking another.

We've got alot of Tyler Hansbrough fans/optimists on this board that at the same time dont seem to like Collison. Funny because its probably the same people that were head over heels when we acquired him over the summer. Interesting...hopefully you guys are right about Tyler.

Solid · Post #17 » by **Solid** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:19 pm

I agree with most of whats been said.
I posted a few weeks ago that Tyler was fast becoming one of my favorite players.

I begged for a pass first, defensive minded point guard last year and when I ran a thread asking who fit that description DC was a front runner.
He has not been that but I don't think he's necessarily had the best chance to BE that here.

He needs to feel that there are better options that him out there and that our best chance to win is when he can make a good pass.
Lance I have always felt can help here and also effectively guard the bigger points (That would be great).

I'd be happy with B Hans in the 2nd.

We're messed up and I am disappointed with our play but do not feel sure about what would help.
A little more offense from somewhere, I don't care where, without hurting the D.
2 guard would seem to be the easiest place to find that, maybe.

Grab a real good free agent if you can. A strong post defender, or a slashing, spark plug sort of guy (unless Lance hangs in) would be great.
Don't be afraid to spend cash. That's the flip side of saving picks and players.
Don't blow cash just to "salvage" your off-season on a guy to compete for time.

Starkiller · Post #18 » by **Starkiller** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:28 pm

^ As long as we don't pull a Bucks w/ our cap space I'll be happy.

paulgeorge24 · Post #19 » by **paulgeorge24** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:02 am

Solid wrote:I agree with most of whats been said.
I posted a few weeks ago that Tyler was fast becoming one of my favorite players.

I begged for a pass first, defensive minded point guard last year and when I ran a thread asking who fit that description DC was a front runner.
He has not been that but I don't think he's necessarily had the best chance to BE that here.

He needs to feel that there are better options that him out there and that our best chance to win is when he can make a good pass.
Lance I have always felt can help here and also effectively guard the bigger points (That would be great).

I'd be happy with B Hans in the 2nd.

We're messed up and I am disappointed with our play but do not feel sure about what would help.
A little more offense from somewhere, I don't care where, without hurting the D.
2 guard would seem to be the easiest place to find that, maybe.

Grab a real good free agent if you can. A strong post defender, or a slashing, spark plug sort of guy (unless Lance hangs in) would be great.
Don't be afraid to spend cash. That's the flip side of saving picks and players.
Don't blow cash just to "salvage" your off-season on a guy to compete for time.

Why would you want B Hans when he doesnt fit at all with what you wanted in a PG?

Post #20 » by **mizzoupacers** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:06 am

paulgeorge24 wrote:
mizzoupacers wrote:I'm not sure any more that power forward is the weakest link in the starting five.
OOOOO calling out Collison?????

I wasn't meaning to call anyone out. It was more a statement about how well Hansbrough has been playing. I have faith in Collison, I think he's going to turn out to be pretty good. But maybe I'm suffering from a severe case of optimism tonight, brought on by back-to-back wins over the Knicks.

Tyler Hansborugh prospectus come 2011-2012