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ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:34 pm
by Miller4ever
We're climbing up.

The Pacers continue, improbably, to fly up our rankings, despite being little more than a .400 team.

In August, the team jumped a whopping nine spots from No. 26 to No. 17 in our rankings. In December, they rose six more spots to No. 11. This time they leapfrog a few more teams, all the way up to No. 7. Yes, we're saying the Pacers have the seventh-brightest future, ahead of teams like the Celtics, Magic and Mavericks.

Really? Really. Let us explain.

In our ratings, the Pacers excel in only one category: Money, which is defined as "projected salary-cap situation [and] ability and willingness to exceed cap and pay luxury tax." While we don't know how the new collective bargaining agreement will affect the Pacers' ability to spend, on paper they are in great shape.

Pacers executives Larry Bird and David Morway have set this team up for future success by drafting well, building depth and staying away from bad contracts. Owner Herb Simon is considered one of the best in the business -- despite an unfavorable market and financial situation, he has remained committed to spending the money it takes to be competitive.

Going into the summer of 2011, the Pacers have the second-most salary cap space, behind only Sacramento, even though the Pacers aren't likely to lose any core players. Among the team's unrestricted free agents-to-be, T.J. Ford has been benched, Mike Dunleavy has been injured often, and only Jeff Foster (who just turned 34) and Josh McRoberts have played consistent roles in the second half of the season. On the downside, the Pacers might lose former lottery pick Brandon Rush, who has fallen out of favor, and must sign big man Roy Hibbert to an extension.

Meanwhile, the Pacers have several promising young players still on their rookie contracts. Rookie Paul George has star ability and looks like the steal of the 2010 draft this year, Tyler Hansbrough has come on strong under coach Frank Vogel, and Darren Collison has given the Pacers a boost at point guard.

At the moment, the Pacers are barely hanging on to their playoff spot, but they should be a more legitimate factor in the next three seasons. With the right additions and the development of George, Hibbert, Hansbrough and Collison, Indiana has a shot at being one of the better teams in the East for the next half-decade.


Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:46 pm
by Boneman2
nice find! I'll be sure to post it on the trade board when haters hate.

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:35 pm
by Miami_DieHard
please Indiana upset Boston tonight

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:50 pm
by Indy2thaWindy
Miami_DieHard wrote:please Indiana upset Boston tonight


The greatest of all time joined on March 9th.

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:53 pm
by Gremz
We're legit now. This time next year we be larffin I tell ya!

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:48 pm
by Mr_Anderson
Pacers three-peat! I called it first :lol:

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:18 pm
by captaincrunk
The only problem I have with the #7 is that DC and Hibbert haven't gotten better this season. I feel they've stagnated in their development. But Paul George is already looking like he'll be better than either of them, so perhaps role player status (for DC and Hibbert) wouldn't kill the Pacers.

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:44 pm
by Miller4ever
I feel like Hibbert improved a lot and then regressed a bit, but it was mostly that stretch in December/January and since then he's back on the up. He was mishandled by O'Brien, I feel.

As for Collison, he's turning it over less than he did his rookie year with comparable stats all the way around, and I feel that'll continue. He's also had to go through 4 different coaches in 2 years. That tends to get in the way of PG development.

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:00 pm
by captaincrunk
Miller4ever wrote:I feel like Hibbert improved a lot and then regressed a bit, but it was mostly that stretch in December/January and since then he's back on the up. He was mishandled by O'Brien, I feel.

As for Collison, he's turning it over less than he did his rookie year with comparable stats all the way around, and I feel that'll continue. He's also had to go through 4 different coaches in 2 years. That tends to get in the way of PG development.

On Hibbert - I expected him to do much better than he has been. Yeah at the start he was doing really well. But there's no injuries or anything stopping him from being good, yet he's not. So maybe he's not that great? Maybe he's just good.

Collison was expected to do better than he has as well. He's got a better supporting cast than he did in NOH. He doesn't seem like the bright spot he was touted as at the beginning of the season. I feel like he ought to be doing better if he really had the potential expected of him. Not saying he won't get better, just not expecting nearly as much as before.

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:03 pm
by Miller4ever
captaincrunk wrote:Collison was expected to do better than he has as well. He's got a better supporting cast than he did in NOH.


Better supporting cast?

Re: ESPN future power rankings: #7 now!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:23 pm
by paulgeorge24
captaincrunk wrote:
Miller4ever wrote:I feel like Hibbert improved a lot and then regressed a bit, but it was mostly that stretch in December/January and since then he's back on the up. He was mishandled by O'Brien, I feel.

As for Collison, he's turning it over less than he did his rookie year with comparable stats all the way around, and I feel that'll continue. He's also had to go through 4 different coaches in 2 years. That tends to get in the way of PG development.

On Hibbert - I expected him to do much better than he has been. Yeah at the start he was doing really well. But there's no injuries or anything stopping him from being good, yet he's not. So maybe he's not that great? Maybe he's just good.

Collison was expected to do better than he has as well. He's got a better supporting cast than he did in NOH. He doesn't seem like the bright spot he was touted as at the beginning of the season. I feel like he ought to be doing better if he really had the potential expected of him. Not saying he won't get better, just not expecting nearly as much as before.
Umm what??

This was Roy's first season facing consistent double teams. He's still learning how to be effective when those doubles come and we lack someone who can stretch the court for him. As for Collison, its been beaten to the ground, M4E's post shouldve given you a taste.

Sounds like your expectations were not realistic to start with or that you're not accounting for other variables that are involved here.