Jeff Green

[mike d]

I saw the Pacers are interested in Jeff Green next season to fill in for George. What do you think they would give up for him?

[8305]

I'd be surprised if Hill, Hibbert or West were offered in a trade for Green. Maybe checking to see if Boston is looking to move Green for salary relief?

[Scoot McGroot]

I saw the Pacers are interested in Jeff Green next season to fill in for George. What do you think they would give up for him?

hmm. Hard to tell. That 2015 salary is a killer. Probably something like Mahinmi/Scola. Maybe a 2nd or two. Can't imagine we'd offer much; we don't really have much to offer. Most likely a usable part and immediate cap relief in Scola's partial guarantee.

If we are looking to add Green, it's to compete this year, too. Hibbert, Hill, West wouldn't be involved.


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[basketballwacko2]

Green is a useful player I could see something like Copeland, Scola and Mahimni for Green and Zeller or Sullinger.

The Pacers cut $1,4 million giving us $3 million in space if we want to bring on a vet at Minimum. Green fills in at SF and can give you minutes at PF and Sullinger can play Center and PF. Adds flexibility.

Celtics cut Scola and save $3 million getting below the tax line then cut Bogans to save more money. The can make more moves to consolidate talent, they'd have 5 centers with Ian, Faverani, Oynyk Zeller and Joel Anthony. The can try to move Favorani and Anthony plus pick to a team that needs a center.

Taking Green complicates things because of his 2015-16 salary, but I'd consider it as an insurance policy against PG not making it back.

[Scoot McGroot]

Let's keep in mind that Boston values Sullinger about as much as we did PG before his breakout year (a ton). He's not getting thrown in with Green for the likes of Scola or Mahinmi. Probably not Zeller either. I think we'd be lucky to get Green for Ian and Scola. Getting other value like Zeller would take something additional from our end.


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[8305]

Green is a useful player I could see something like Copeland, Scola and Mahimni for Green and Zeller or Sullinger.

The Pacers cut $1,4 million giving us $3 million in space if we want to bring on a vet at Minimum. Green fills in at SF and can give you minutes at PF and Sullinger can play Center and PF. Adds flexibility.

Celtics cut Scola and save $3 million getting below the tax line then cut Bogans to save more money. The can make more moves to consolidate talent, they'd have 5 centers with Ian, Faverani, Oynyk Zeller and Joel Anthony. The can try to move Favorani and Anthony plus pick to a team that needs a center.

Taking Green complicates things because of his 2015-16 salary, but I'd consider it as an insurance policy against PG not making it back.

Can't imagine they'd be adding young talent to a deal where we are pretty much sending junk to them. At best they see some value to Mahamni and the likelihood he provides a defensive presence they don't have now coupled with the ability to cut Scola saving some money against the cap. Would they value that enough to send us Green? I'm skeptical but I'd make that trade.

Green by the way has the same type contract as Hibbert and West. If he were to perform at all for us he's a likely opt out too. So the concern about him hurting our cap position beyond next year might not come to fruition.

[mike d]

I also know that Larry Bird likes Rondo a lot. So what do you guys think of a Green + Rondo and maybe olynick and or Sullinger? What would the Celtics get in return?

[mikepacernation]

What's Jeff greens contract look like?


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[8305]

I also know that Larry Bird likes Rondo a lot. So what do you guys think of a Green + Rondo and maybe olynick and or Sullinger? What would the Celtics get in return?

I think that's probably too many moving parts. As was noted earlier if the Pacers are interested in acquiring Green that means their trying to improve themselves this year. To me that means they aren't looking to trade West, Hill or Hibbert. I assume when you throw out the likes of Rondo, Sullinger and Olynick you expect us to come back with West or Hibbert. Don't think that's happening. At least it wouldn't if it were me.

[Scoot McGroot]

I also know that Larry Bird likes Rondo a lot. So what do you guys think of a Green + Rondo and maybe olynick and or Sullinger? What would the Celtics get in return?

That's closer to Paul George in return than anything else we can offer.


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[Slartibartfast]

What's Jeff greens contract look like?


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$9.2 mil this year with a player option for $9.2 mil next year. Given his age (almost 28), health, and the kind of contracts being thrown around as the cap increases, he's almost a sure bet to opt out and look for a 4 year deal to take him through the rest of his prime.

[basketballwacko2]

Let's keep in mind that Boston values Sullinger about as much as we did PG before his breakout year (a ton). He's not getting thrown in with Green for the likes of Scola or Mahinmi. Probably not Zeller either. I think we'd be lucky to get Green for Ian and Scola. Getting other value like Zeller would take something additional from our end.


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I'm sure they do Sullinger is a good player I wanted him in the draft that year. We'd need a center back if trading Ian. So unless they'd take Scola and Cope I wouldn't be ok making a deal to trade Ian. I'd say we should sign Marion offer him $3.5 to $4 million then cut Scola. Or find a 2 for 1 trade. I'd like to get Marion just to keep the Cavs from getting him.

[basketballwacko2]

I also know that Larry Bird likes Rondo a lot. So what do you guys think of a Green + Rondo and maybe olynick and or Sullinger? What would the Celtics get in return?

They'd probably demand Hibbert and West for Green, Rondo and Zeller if they added in 2 #1s I'd consider it.

[Chris4Vikes]

I also know that Larry Bird likes Rondo a lot. So what do you guys think of a Green + Rondo and maybe olynick and or Sullinger? What would the Celtics get in return?

They'd probably demand Hibbert and West for Green, Rondo and Zeller if they added in 2 #1s I'd consider it.

I don't see how the Pacers can get Rondo and Green, unless a guy named Paul George is included. West has zero value for the Celtics, since they are already overloaded at PF and are rebuilding. I think Rondo is a perfect match for the Pacers, but not sure how they could pull it off.

The only trade I see is Green for Scola, filler (Copeland), and a pick of some kind. I am not sure what type of pick it would take. 1st rounder, protected 1st rounder, or second rounder? Not sure. But I believe Green can be had since the Celtics are rebuilding and have younger duplication at that position (Turner, Young).

Jeff Green will give you 15-17 points a night, albeit on a somewhat inconsistent basis. He can shoot the 3 pointer well, get out in transition with some monster dunks, and defend very well. He is not a great rebounder.

[Andrew McCeltic]

C's fan here- Hibbert is really the only player on your roster who fits our needs.. I figure Rondo or Green to IND would take a third team, where you guys get back a center to replace Hibbert or you move West to a team who gives us something of value- maybe Green and Bass to IND, West to CHA or SAC or even MIN...


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[Andrew McCeltic]

Green, Joel Anthony (expiring), Brandon Knight to IND, George Hill and Chris Copeland to MIL, Zaza Pachulia and IND 1st to BOS..? I have no idea what Hill and Knight's relative trade values are.. as a BOS fan, I feel like there may not be enough in it for us, but we clear a roster spot, cut salary, fill a need with a center, and get a first..

Green for Scola/filler would take two firsts, I think.. We're not really desperate to dump his salary..

[pacers33granger]

I'd have to imagine Knight has more value than Hill, I don't think Milwaukee touches that deal at all. I don't think there's a deal between the Celtics and Pacers that works.

[Boneman2]

These moves only make sense in the very short term and talentwise are hardly worth the long term costs.

Indy will not add a 1st(s) for Green. There is a chance that Indy's 2015 1st could be the most valuable pick they've had in the last 2 decades. A 1st is out of the question until Paul George returns to form IMO.

We'll take em' though and Boston has a ton of them. Please don't take ours too.

[Andrew McCeltic]

These moves only make sense in the very short term and talentwise are hardly worth the long term costs.

Indy will not add a 1st(s) for Green. There is a chance that Indy's 2015 1st could be the most valuable pick they've had in the last 2 decades. A 1st is out of the question until Paul George returns to form IMO.

We'll take em' though and Boston has a ton of them. Please don't take ours too.

The point of you guys trading for a 3 like Green, as I understand it, is to have someone fill in for George and to be in the playoff hunt because of your team defense- so the pick is likely to be in the 10-16 range. If I were Bird, I'd make it a reboot year- trade Hibbert/Hill to the Suns for Bledsoe, Len, Goodwin, the LAL 1st... Hope Len develops, try to find a taker for David West, and go into the summer with two lottery picks, Bledsoe, George, Len and cap..