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Posted: **Fri May 20, 2016 2:34 pm**

Posted: **Fri May 20, 2016 3:14 pm**

Really good idea. I love Gbinije and Arcidiacono.

Troy Williams doesn't really excite me much, but I think hes pretty comparable to Lance. looking forward to the draft.

Posted: **Fri May 20, 2016 3:38 pm**

I don't see Troy on anyone's first round mock. He could surprise me, but I think he goes back to IU after he realizes that he's a second round pick if that this year. Not that a year in Fort Wayne or Europe would hurt him.

Posted: **Fri May 20, 2016 3:59 pm**

Wizop wrote:I don't see Troy on anyone's first round mock. He could surprise me, but I think he goes back to IU after he realizes that he's a second round pick if that this year. Not that a year in Fort Wayne or Europe would hurt him.

Right now, Troy is barely on 2nd round mocks. He showed very poorly at the draft combine, too. I think he ultimately stays in the draft and goes undrafted, but mostly because he will likely look worse this next year at IU without a true PG like Yogi to help limit his on-ball mistakes.

Posted: **Fri May 20, 2016 7:21 pm**

and yet he says he'll go back to school if he's not going to be a first round pick. I agree it doesn't look like either Troy or Yogi are going to be drafted. I'd give Yogi a non-guaranteed contract and see what he can do in the summer league. Troy needs a wake up call. It wouldn't hurt him a bit to do an Antonio Davis and spend a few years in Europe.

Posted: **Sat May 21, 2016 6:43 am**

Wizop wrote:and yet he says he'll go back to school if he's not going to be a first round pick. I agree it doesn't look like either Troy or Yogi are going to be drafted. I'd give Yogi a non-guaranteed contract and see what he can do in the summer league. Troy needs a wake up call. It wouldn't hurt him a bit to do an Antonio Davis and spend a few years in Europe.

I think we can all save him the time and tell him now that he won't be a first round pick.

I think Yogi might get drafted in the 2nd. His competitiveness and leadership will be desired. I think someone will think enough of him to take him in the 45-60 range, where it's all just about who a GM likes personally.

Posted: **Mon May 23, 2016 3:21 pm**

Yogi has a slight chance at the second round after the Ulis, Barber, Baldwin, and Jackson are gone. I like him better than Isiah Taylor, but the end of the second round could belong to the international players. Troy Williams, he's not likely to get drafted at all.

Posted: **Mon May 23, 2016 4:03 pm**

Moooose wrote:Yogi has a slight chance at the second round after the Ulis, Barber, Baldwin, and Jackson are gone. I like him better than Isiah Taylor, but the end of the second round could belong to the international players. Troy Williams, he's not likely to get drafted at all.

Yeah. As I've gotten older, and as the NBA has shifted a bit, I don't think the 2nd round follows the 1st round style of drafting. It's not so much about who's more talented or whatnot, it's merely about who teams like better. It's why teams end up drafting guys at 40 that wouldn't have been drafted otherwise, and really good players can go undrafted, too. All it takes is one GM to have a connection to Yogi and say, "He's our guy in the 2nd".

Posted: **Tue May 24, 2016 3:20 am**

May 23
Anthony Barber, G, NC State
Ben Bentil, PF, Providence
Kay Felder, G, Oakland
Armani Moore, G-F, Tennessee
Caleb Swanigan, C, Purdue
Rasheed Sulaimon, G, Maryland

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/purdue/2016/05/20/purdues-caleb-swanigan-working-out-pacers/84666074/http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/road-unexpected-bentil-bound-nba

Posted: **Tue May 24, 2016 3:20 pm**

Ben Bentil is the most intriguing of the group. Could end up being a late first-rounder.

Posted: **Tue May 24, 2016 3:23 pm**

Moooose wrote:Ben Bentil is the most intriguing of the group. Could end up being a late first-rounder.

I know he's super small, but Felder, too. Dynamic scorer and passer. Even though he played at a small school, he lit up big time competition like a top 5 Virginia team and Michigan State, single handedly taking tiny Oakland to OT against the then #1 ranked MSU Spartans.

Posted: **Wed May 25, 2016 5:01 am**

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Moooose wrote:Ben Bentil is the most intriguing of the group. Could end up being a late first-rounder.

I know he's super small, but Felder, too. Dynamic scorer and passer. Even though he played at a small school, he lit up big time competition like a top 5 Virginia team and Michigan State, single handedly taking tiny Oakland to OT against the then #1 ranked MSU Spartans.

Yeah, might have solidified his rank as a mid second-rounder. I just don't think Bird is interested in someone like Felder. He never drafted someone like Felder.

Posted: **Wed May 25, 2016 9:13 pm**

Moooose wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Moooose wrote:Ben Bentil is the most intriguing of the group. Could end up being a late first-rounder.

I know he's super small, but Felder, too. Dynamic scorer and passer. Even though he played at a small school, he lit up big time competition like a top 5 Virginia team and Michigan State, single handedly taking tiny Oakland to OT against the then #1 ranked MSU Spartans.

Yeah, might have solidified his rank as a mid second-rounder. I just don't think Bird is interested in someone like Felder. He never drafted someone like Felder.

He just drafted Joe Young. :dontknow:

Posted: **Wed May 25, 2016 10:09 pm**

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Moooose wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
I know he's super small, but Felder, too. Dynamic scorer and passer. Even though he played at a small school, he lit up big time competition like a top 5 Virginia team and Michigan State, single handedly taking tiny Oakland to OT against the then #1 ranked MSU Spartans.

Yeah, might have solidified his rank as a mid second-rounder. I just don't think Bird is interested in someone like Felder. He never drafted someone like Felder.

He just drafted Joe Young.

To be fair, Young is a whole five inches taller than Felder. But as someone who doesn't even come close to sniffing six-foot myself, I have no issue drafting Felder. Who knows, maybe he's the next Isaiah Thomas...unlikely, but he will get a shot to make a team.

Posted: **Thu May 26, 2016 12:52 am**

Doesn't drafting Felder give up on Young?

Posted: **Thu May 26, 2016 4:23 am**

Jermainevent wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Moooose wrote:
Yeah, might have solidified his rank as a mid second-rounder. I just don't think Bird is interested in someone like Felder. He never drafted someone like Felder.

He just drafted Joe Young.

To be fair, Young is a whole five inches taller than Felder. But as someone who doesn't even come close to sniffing six-foot myself, I have no issue drafting Felder. Who knows, maybe he's the next Isaiah Thomas...unlikely, but he will get a shot to make a team.

The height issues are what I am referring to.

Posted: **Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:42 pm**

Today's workouts include:
Jake Layman, SF/PF, Maryland
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jake-Layman-7125/
Thon Maker, PF/C, Prep School, Canada
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Thon-Maker-70462/
Retin Obasohan, PG, Alabama
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Retin-Obasohan-40514/
Shavon Shields, SG, Nebraska
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shavon-Shields-66292/
Fred VanVleet, G, Wichita State
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Fred-VanVleet-58750/
Stephen Zimmerman, C, UNLV
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Stephen-Zimmerman-7099/

Posted: **Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:46 pm**

Several mocks have us taking Zimmerman so I'm glad to see we're taking a first hand look. Maker feels like Bender ... tall athlete but big risk. Others are second rounders.

Posted: **Thu Jun 2, 2016 12:20 pm**

Wizop wrote:Several mocks have us taking Zimmerman so I'm glad to see we're taking a first hand look. Maker feels like Bender ... tall athlete but big risk. Others are second rounders.

Interesting thing is that the Hoosiers were in hot pursuit of both. I'm not sure how I feel about either because both look to be a couple years away from really contributing and Pacers need to surround PG13 and Myles Turner with guys who are ready to roll now.

Posted: **Thu Jun 2, 2016 1:52 pm**

I was impressed by how articulate all of the prospects were in their post workout video interviews,

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