Trade Discussions

SBM · Post #1 » by **SBM** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 2:23 am

This is just a place to discussion trades you would like to see. Try and keep this stuff reasonable but I can understand looking at certain trades that have went through you can suggest whatever you wish.

Also remember that the Pacers should be trying to get better and if using #18 to get better does it, so be it.

SBM · Post #2 » by **SBM** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 2:30 am

I already suggested these two:

Dwight Howard: Ind gets

Monta and Al Jefferson: Atl gets

I may also be willing to swap 18 for 31.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ms8h72b

What do you think of Nic Batum as a trade target?

I think he is a good SG but overpaid. He has also played SF in Portland alongside Matthews. Charlotte could not even make playoffs last year and they are starting to pay such players $20 M plus a year. Some think they should try to start a rebuild around Kemba Walker.

If the price where Monta+Lavoy Allen+ Seraphin?

If the price where Monta+Lavoy Allen+Seraphin+ pick 18?

Me, I definitely do it without the 18th pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya24gch2

SBM · Post #3 » by **SBM** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 3:08 am

How much Carmelo Anthony helps at his current age of 33 I don't know but putting him at PF is intriguing being that he is taller than Thad and guys have pulled such off for years.

NY gets: Thad+Al Jeff+18

Ind gets: Carmelo

We still would not have a SG and would have exhausted most of our assets but we still would have some assets.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb6qr9fy

Now to Orlando who might be the best trade partners for us

Magic get: Monta+Lavoy+18

Pacers get: Evan Fournier+33
.
This may be a slight overpay but we need something at the 2 position.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h6zm7hw

Magic get: Monta+Lavoy+18

Pacers get: Bismack Biyombo+33 and 35

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya3xpreg

Discuss

Pacers_Freak · Post #4 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 1:15 pm

SBM wrote:I already suggested these two:

Dwight Howard: Ind gets

Monta and Al Jefferson: Atl gets

I may also be willing to swap 18 for 31.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ms8h72b

What do you think of Nic Batum as a trade target?

I think he is a good SG but overpaid. He has also played SF in Portland alongside Matthews. Charlotte could not even make playoffs last year and they are starting to pay such players $20 M plus a year. Some think they should try to start a rebuild around Kemba Walker.

If the price where Monta+Lavoy Allen+ Seraphin?

If the price where Monta+Lavoy Allen+Seraphin+ pick 18?

Me, I definitely do it without the 18th pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya24gch2

Don't really hate either of them. I'm not convinced Myles can defend a lot of 4s in today's game, but he obviously struggled guarding 5s as well. I really think at this point of his career he is a tweener between guarding 4 and 5s. It would give us a nice 3 man platoon though at the 4-5. Vs. big times go Turner-Thad, and against bigger teams go Turner-D12.

I am a Batum fan. He would definitely help us defensively and could help stretch the floor. I would be hesitant to give up 18 for him because as you mentioned he has a huge contract.

Pacers_Freak · Post #5 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 1:17 pm

SBM wrote:How much Carmelo Anthony helps at his current age of 33 I don't know but putting him at PF is intriguing being that he is taller than Thad and guys have pulled such off for years.

NY gets: Thad+Al Jeff+18

Ind gets: Carmelo

We still would not have a SG and would have exhausted most of our assets but we still would have some assets.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb6qr9fy

Now to Orlando who might be the best trade partners for us

Magic get: Monta+Lavoy+18

Pacers get: Evan Fournier+33
.
This may be a slight overpay but we need something at the 2 position.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h6zm7hw

Magic get: Monta+Lavoy+18

Pacers get: Bismack Biyombo+33 and 35

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya3xpreg

Discuss

I think getting Melo would convince PG to stay. Plus it makes us a lot better. Say what you want about Melo but the dude can still play.

I like Fournier but I agree that may be overpay for him.

Not a huge fan of that Biyombo deal. But, I could see why it would be done to add a rim protector/rebounder.

basketballwacko2 · Post #6 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Jun 6, 2017 8:58 pm

Magic get: Monta+Lavoy+18

Pacers get: Bismack Biyombo+33 and 35

This is terrible the Magic may be wanting out of Biyombo's long term deal give them Monta and Allen for Biz and the 2 2nds or #25.

Wizop · Post #7 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:07 pm

I'd take ilyosova ahead of Biyombo but I love their high second round picks.

basketballwacko2 · Post #8 » by **basketballwacko2** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 8:51 pm

Wizop wrote:I'd take ilyosova ahead of Biyombo but I love their high second round picks.

I'd like to have them both. Ilyosova for his shooting and Biyombo for his big banging rebounding and shot blocking.

SBM · Post #9 » by **SBM** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 9:56 pm

I thought Ilyosova was a FA.

basketballwacko2 · Post #10 » by **basketballwacko2** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 10:20 pm

Ilyosova is a free Agent, I'm assuming we make our moves what ever they are then go after him with the MLE.

Wizop · Post #11 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 12:02 am

Jerebko is also a free agent. There must be more decent backup fours.

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SBM · Post #12 » by **SBM** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 1:55 am

Well, I intended for this to stay a trade thread because trades and FA's are totally different transactions.

Post #13 » by **Miller4ever** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:54 am

So many of your trades hinge on the hope that another team thinks Monta Ellis has value, and for that reason, I want to cry.

basketballwacko2 · Post #14 » by **basketballwacko2** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 2:11 pm

Miller4ever wrote:So many of your trades hinge on the hope that another team thinks Monta Ellis has value, and for that reason, I want to cry.

Monta's main "value" will be if a team wants to cut salary near the end of next season. If he can indeed be released and his final season voided, we might be able to trade him at or near the deadline and get something that helps us.

Wizop · Post #15 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 3:34 pm

To me Monta is a catch-22. He's been a good locker room guy, and he's a much better fit with Lance than with Teague. The problem is that unless he gets injured late in the season like Stuckey did, I'm not sure we can void his player option and have him on the playoff roster too. I'm assuming of course that he'd have to be waived during the season and that after the season but before 7/2018 doesn't work.

basketballwacko2 · Post #16 » by **basketballwacko2** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:18 pm

Wizop wrote:To me Monta is a catch-22. He's been a good locker room guy, and he's a much better fit with Lance than with Teague. The problem is that unless he gets injured late in the season like Stuckey did, I'm not sure we can void his player option and have him on the playoff roster too. I'm assuming of course that he'd have to be waived during the season and that after the season but before 7/2018 doesn't work.

I'm not sure what you're saying here? If they want out of Monta's 2018-19 player option they have to release him before the end of the season, that means he's not with the team in the playoffs.

That's why if I could move him for another player preferably on a smaller deal who might have more years let the other team dump him.

Or if Biyombo was someone who could help in the front court Monta, and Allen for Biz and their 2 high 2nds sounds good to me but not if we have to give our #18 pick. Orlando didn't seem happy with Biz last season.

Wizop · Post #17 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:52 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:I'm not sure what you're saying here? If they want out of Monta's 2018-19 player option they have to release him before the end of the season, that means he's not with the team in the playoffs.

That IS what I'm saying. I think he'd win some games for us but we'd have to choose between having him in the playoffs and paying him another year. Hobson's choice - the lesser of two evils. I agree with your conclusion that moving him to a lottery team for anything they'd give you would be best. I'm not at the trade him for a bag of wet noodles stage, but I'd gladly take a second round pick.

8305 · Post #18 » by **8305** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:04 pm

Wizop wrote:To me Monta is a catch-22. He's been a good locker room guy, and he's a much better fit with Lance than with Teague. The problem is that unless he gets injured late in the season like Stuckey did, I'm not sure we can void his player option and have him on the playoff roster too. I'm assuming of course that he'd have to be waived during the season and that after the season but before 7/2018 doesn't work.

The only value I see to Monta is as an expiring contract. Don't agree that he is a better fit with Lance than Teague. Both Teague and Ellis need the ball. Teague can be effective from the three point line. In theory that fits with Lance better.

I'd trade him for just about any guy who can still play who I assume would be on a longer contract. Wes Matthews, Courtney Lee, Solomon Hill, Etwan Moore come to mind as guys their respective teams might be willing to move for cap space. If we don't get him moved I would think he would be released to avoid the potential final year of his deal under any circumstances.

8305 · Post #19 » by **8305** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:07 pm

Wizop wrote:Jerebko is also a free agent. There must be more decent backup fours.

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I like Jerebko but ifhe is your backup 4 these small backcourt lineups have to stop.

Wizop · Post #20 » by **Wizop** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:56 pm

8305 wrote:
Wizop wrote:Jerebko is also a free agent. There must be more decent backup fours.

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I like Jerebko but ifhe is your backup 4 these small backcourt lineups have to stop.

I think Lance or GRob or a draft pick will be in the backcourt at all times with Teague or Young or Monta and sometimes Lance will be the point. Lance eliminates the need to play two small guards except to match up.

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