Pacers planning on Keeping PG

[basketballwacko2]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246174/Pacers-Currently-Planning-On-Keeping-Paul-George

This is what I've been saying all along. The only way we're trading PG is if some team comes in with a huge offer.

So we need to get on with making the team better, can we beat the Cavs in 2017-18? Maybe they only beat us by an average of 4 pts a game. They beat the Raps by 13 a game, and the Celtics by 20+.

What do we need to do?

1. Get Lance back to the old Lance, if he plays as well next season as he did in the playoffs that's gonna be great.

2. Get bigger at PF, Improve depth and athleticism. Draft John Collins if he's there.

3. Move Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson. Cap space would be fine or we could take some player that some team what's to unload and maybe get a draft pick to do it. Kanter? Biyombo? or Courtney Lee?

4. Resign Jeff Teague!

[Wizop]

What do we need to do?

1. Get Lance back to the old Lance, if he plays as well next season as he did in the playoffs that's gonna be great.

agree

2. Get bigger at PF, Improve depth and athleticism. Draft John Collins if he's there.

I would be satisfied if we could get faster at backup PF. I don't think we need to get bigger than Thad but his backup must be more mobile than Lavoy or Seraphin. Collins is certainly on the list with others. two years ago I had others ahead of Turner so I won't be upset if we go another direction including trading down for Swanigan.

3. Move Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson. Cap space would be fine or we could take some player that some team what's to unload and maybe get a draft pick to do it. Kanter? Biyombo? or Courtney Lee?

this isn't a priority for me unless it enables signing a big name free agent. I'd love an Ibaka or a Milsap who could move Thad to the second unit, but I'd also be happy with an Ilyosova type that could fit into our current cap room.

4. Resign Jeff Teague!

agree

[basketballwacko2]

I agree on Ilysova his 3pt shooting is great. I don't want to trade down in the draft because I think we could get a player that could really help in the future.

I could see something like Monta and #18 to Detroit for Reggie Jackson and #12 and then let Jeff Teague go, or if Teague signs to a reasonable deal. If we could move up 6 spots then we'll get a guy like who like Turner can help soon. And RJ is supposed to be one of Paul's best buddies, if it would help keep PG happy I'm for it.

I'd really like to get Swanigan but I think he's a 2nd round pick right now somewhere between 30 and 35. Could we just buy a pick like we did back in 2012 when we bought the Kings pick and took Orlando Johnson?

[Kirito]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

[celtspacers]

Paul George has talked to Pacers He wants to Stay. They will not trade him for anything. He is now untouchable. He said all the Lakers rumors are Crap. Those are his words.

[Crossova21]

Paul George has talked to Pacers He wants to Stay. They will not trade him for anything. He is now untouchable. He said all the Lakers rumors are Crap. Those are his words.

Source? I'd love to throw this in a few Lakers fans faces.

[Wizop]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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[Kirito]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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Hope also sells tickets.

[Wizop]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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Hope also sells tickets.

I have tickets. Who else does?

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[Pacers_Freak]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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Hope also sells tickets.

Maybe in LA. A massive tank would not sell here.

[basketballwacko2]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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Hope also sells tickets.

Winning 25 games a year, year after year, has got to suck

[Pacersike]

I see this as a bad Move, No team is going to win for the next 3 years might as well go Younger. I would talk to Boston or any team and try to get young players and picks. I would target not this year picks because they are already set and have higher Value i would go after future picks that might become more valuable.

We won't try to be bad for three years. Think ticket sales.

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Hope also sells tickets.

And if hope becomes dissapointment for more than a couple of years, we are talking about owners who could pull the plug or commissioners looking to relocate and try new markets. Pacerland isn't Lakerland.

Lakerland could suck for more than a decade and few would talk about getting rid of them. Pacerland on the other hand would pop up in every debate the NBA will generate to squeeze every possible dollar out of us to increase NBA salaries from outrageous to outlandish, if they suck for half a decade.

Thank you for your concern, but the Pacers will continue to try to survive by keeping and trying to re-sign good players and trying to avoid the cellar of the NBA.

Either way, a team that is looking to contend with Paul George will still pay approximately the same for him at the trade deadline than they will pay us now, unless Paul injures himself. The Pacers on the other hand can try to improve their roster this summer AND can try to improve it one last time at the trade deadline when they have an expiring Jefferson, an expiring Ellis and a pick to offer teams. It is a great trade package because Ellis and Jefferson suck and the Pacers will not be so great

If Paul walks, so be it, but the Pacers won't hit the cellar if they improve their roster to try to keep Paul and if Myles Turner develops like most of us are expecting, he will keep this team as mediocre as it is right now and the Pacers plan to continue to do that until they get very lucky somehow and win the title with a bunch of late lottery and late teens picks, because that is how they roll

[Cresy06]

I would like to see this team get another chance, especially the core of Teague, PG, Turner, GRIII and Young

Try to get rid of Ellis, Jefferson and Seraphin for a backup guard and another backup big.

Draft Terrance Ferguson, he is already a 3&D guy, has length and athleticism and could develop into a star, especially if he can learn from PG.

Get rid of Coach Nate McMillan, get Mark Jackson.

[Global Game]

Great move.
Add pieces. Improve the organization. Compete!

[SBM]

I agree for the most part but I don't trust Lance.

I would trade Thad Young if right trade came about. I don't like him as our starting PF.

But at the end of the day realistically we can draft 2 decent players, bring back all the same players with team options, re-sign Teague and still have about $10 million to get a decent role player.

If we are truly lucky, we can trade Ellis and Jefferson for worse contracts while keeping our picks.

[Sdog]

I fear that pacers will look to trade Paul no mater what happens. I believe that the Pacers want to keep their payroll on the low side. I think this may have played into Bird stepping down. The demise of shopping mauls could be the reason. You can look into the past, and the Pacers have always worked on the cheap side.

[basketballwacko2]

The Pacers have been in salary cap hell a couple times, wasn't JO the highest paid player in the NBA at one point? They gave out big contracts to Croshere, Tinsely, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington even Foster was paid pretty good. Not until the last few years have the Pacers tightened up on paying players, but most of the big contracts we've had have been our own players. Like Hibbert's big contract and the contract of Granger and now PG.

I think the team will pay PG the big money if he wants to stay. I've said before that I think he'd be smart to do what Westbrook did and take a 2+1 deal at about $80 million If that could be worked out this summer it would give him a raise right now and 2 shots at making All NBA.

We'd need to unload Monta, and Jefferson. I have been liking the idea of Jefferson and #47 for Kanter and #21. And then if we don't resign Teague, make a deal with the Pistons for Reggie Jackson, I think they want out of his deal. Jackson and #12 for Monta and #18.

We'd end up with Kanter, Jackson #12 and #21. For Ellis, Jefferson and #18, #47.

All that depends on how much OKC wants to clear salary and how much Detroit wants to unload RJ.

[Sdog]

The only time the team was over the luxury tax was when Herb Simon had control. Mel Simon basically did not want anything to do with the Pacers. he only became interested when team made money.

[Wizop]

The only time the team was over the luxury tax was when Herb Simon had control. Mel Simon basically did not want anything to do with the Pacers. he only became interested when team made money.

My sense is we paid tax at the end of Reggie's career. I don't think the decision had anything to do with a different brother in control.

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[Sdog]

That is true, we were in the tax area with Reggie. Reggie retired in 2005, Herb died in 2009. When he did there was great speculation that Mel would sell the team. Mel never was that high on the Pacers.