Who do you think makes the final roster?

Post #1 » by **boomershadow** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:59 pm

I expected Wilkins to be just a camp signing to bring a veteran presence for our younger guys. Now that we have an unexpected hole in the rotation at small forward do you think he sticks around? He lead the team in scoring in the Pistons game, and he has proven to be able to shoot the 3 ball. Or do you think a Mad Ant guy like Uthoff or Poythress deserves more NBA experience to show what they got?

What do you the end of the bench is gonna end up looking like?

Pacersike · Post #2 » by **Pacersike** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:12 am

Wilkins gets a spot he deserves and Joe Young gets a spot he does not deserve. Not enough improvement there for 3 years in a row. Maybe Joe tries too hard because his father was an NBA failure and maybe that is how he made our FO believe in him.

The other players I honestly can't tell. I wasn't able to watch the Pistons game and we only had 3 games to build rotation chemsitry.
I think they liked Uthoff and Moore though.

PTA · Post #3 » by **PTA** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:40 am

I think Wilkins has played well and has earned a spot. GR3 had surgery and will be out an extra 2-4 weeks. Poythress is already signed to a 2 way deal. I think that Uthoff is the best unsigned player even if he is much like Leaf. So Wilkins and Uthoff.

Tnasty4l · Post #4 » by **Tnasty4l** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:25 pm

I was hoping Ben Moore, but he didn't get enough playing time in preseason . it's probably Wilkins and Uthoff.

Pacers_Freak · Post #5 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:39 pm

I think Wilkins is in for sure. It is an area of need and to my disbelief.... he earned it. The final roster spot I'm not sure who gets it. I can see us trading for a wing or signing a wing that gets waived.

Post #6 » by **pacers33granger** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:54 pm

Have to agree that Wilkins is in after a solid preseason and GRIII's injury. Still wish we'd just give the spot to some deserving young talent, but oh well we still have another spot left and I'm not sure anyone is worth it.

Poythress would be my pick if we have to have 15, but I'd prefer to keep it open for a salary dump. Uthoff has looked pretty good, but we have a glut where he plays as is so I'd prefer a wing.

We should just cut Joe Young though. He's looked awful again and it would be nice to have a 3rd pg who either can be relied upon or shows progress.

Wizop · Post #7 » by **Wizop** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:32 pm

I think Moore is on a gleague deal. I have hopes for 2 way Sumner later in the year. Poythress could get his 45 days early while GRob is out.

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winter_mute_13 · Post #8 » by **winter_mute_13** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:16 pm

Kind of funny how Wilkins is now a near consensus to make the cut when we were all mystified (or was it horrified) when his signing was announced. Well, good on him, he won his spot fair and square. He actually looks pretty good for a guy who's been out of the NBA for 4 years. Wish he had more competition at the wing, but oh well.

Moore should be on the Ants. I think Uthoff will be too. Poythress and Sumner shouldn't count towards the 15 since they are both on 2-way contracts.

Post #9 » by **pacers33granger** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:26 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:Kind of funny how Wilkins is now a near consensus to make the cut when we were all mystified (or was it horrified) when his signing was announced. Well, good on him, he won his spot fair and square. He actually looks pretty good for a guy who's been out of the NBA for 4 years. Wish he had more competition at the wing, but oh well.

Moore should be on the Ants. I think Uthoff will be too. Poythress and Sumner shouldn't count towards the 15 since they are both on 2-way contracts.

Personally I've just accepted it, but I'm still not pleased that we used the spot on a vet whose been out of the league for several years and played with Nate. He earned it and I applaud the guy for being a pro, but it's still the wrong move when we should be using every avenue we have to get young talent, even if it's a 0.1% chance it pans out into anything.

Tnasty4l · Post #10 » by **Tnasty4l** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:39 pm

I really think we should get VJ BEACHUM. He was released from the Lakers, and I think he could be a 3 and D guy for us in the future.

owlwo · Post #11 » by **owlwo** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:20 pm

Personally I've just accepted it, but I'm still not pleased that we used the spot on a vet whose been out of the league for several years and played with Nate. He earned it and I applaud the guy for being a pro, but it's still the wrong move when we should be using every avenue we have to get young talent, even if it's a 0.1% chance it pans out into anything.[/quote]

I get what your are saying but this team already has plenty of youth and you can only develop so much at one time.
Some vets on the team is VERY important to teach the youth you already have.

Post #12 » by **pacers33granger** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:07 am

owlwo wrote:I get what your are saying but this team already has plenty of youth and you can only develop so much at one time.
Some vets on the team is VERY important to teach the youth you already have.

I agree, but I think we're more than fine with vets right now. Thad, Al, Collison, Joseph, Bogdonavic, Dipo, and Lance all have a ton of experience. And we're short on guards/wings developing. It's kind of just GRIII since Poythress/Sumner are two way guys and the Joe Young experiment should be over.

basketballwacko2 · Post #13 » by **basketballwacko2** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:10 am

winter_mute_13 wrote:Kind of funny how Wilkins is now a near consensus to make the cut when we were all mystified (or was it horrified) when his signing was announced. Well, good on him, he won his spot fair and square. He actually looks pretty good for a guy who's been out of the NBA for 4 years. Wish he had more competition at the wing, but oh well.

Moore should be on the Ants. I think Uthoff will be too. Poythress and Sumner shouldn't count towards the 15 since they are both on 2-way contracts.

You know speaking as a guy who just turned 55 in August, 37 is not that old!! If he has not had any bad knee or hip, or Achilles type injuries he comes in top shape and what do you know. I never thought he'd make the team and still kinda doubt he sticks around the whole season, maybe he is a player coach who can still play a bit.

I think Joe Young should be in Fort Wayne he needs to pay in games or he's never gonna do anything. He's got a good 3pt shot and can handle the ball well. But if he doesn't play it's not gonna happen.

pacers70 · Post #14 » by **pacers70** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:46 pm

Wilkins earned a spot on this roster. That would leave 1 spot open by my calculations. I think Jones and McKinney are injured, Poythress and Sumner are on 2 way contracts. That leaves Uthoff and Moore to battle for the final spot...unless we cut JYoung.

If I were in charge, I'd cut JYoung and keep Uthoff and Moore. We have $6 million in cap space so if we have serious injury issues at a certain position, we could waive someone and pick up a player on a minimum or near minimum contract.

I know the theory on keeping JYoung is that he is our 3rd string PG. We have Collison, Joseph and Lance can play PG and also Victor O. can play there in an emergency. It looks to me like JYoung is really our 4th string PG, we wouldn't be hurt be letting him go.

winter_mute_13 · Post #15 » by **winter_mute_13** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:20 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:You know speaking as a guy who just turned 55 in August, 37 is not that old!!

Sure, but I'm guessing you're not actually a professional athlete

What made Wilkins seem questionable wasn't just his age, but that he has been out of the league since 2013. In between, he played in the D-League (now G-League) and in South America, which isn't exactly the highest level of competition. But he's proven himself, even if it's just preseason, so that's that.

Post #16 » by **pacers33granger** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:25 pm

Jones, Mckinney-Jones, and Moore were wavied.

So looks like, Wilkins has made the final roster and possibly Uthoff.

Wizop · Post #17 » by **Wizop** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:21 pm

pacers33granger wrote:Jones, Mckinney-Jones, and Moore were wavied.

So looks like, Wilkins has made the final roster and possibly Uthoff.

Uthoff for sure barring a trade or free agent. Moore was always going to Fort Wayne and the two two ways don't count against 15. I never had a Jones on my list.

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Pacersike · Post #18 » by **Pacersike** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:16 am

As far as the final roster is final, we can now predict who is not going to finish the season with the Pacers.

Joe Young gets my vote. Edmond Sumner has more talent and with a roster full of shooting bigs, he fits in perfectly, because our guards need to be able to get inside and get some rebounds if our bigs are stepping out.

Thad Young can be traded at the trade deadline if the Pacers get something of value in return. To trade him at the start of the season, even before 3 went down, is a bad idea IMO. He the only one who can guard bigger trees decently.

Al Jefferson is an important lockerroom guy and was a liability even before his offensive game took a dive. He has tiny trade value and is teaching our future stars (Turner and Sabonis) how to improve their footwork. He could finish the season here.

Little have I seen from Uthoff, but I like his game. Being the last training camp addition and still making the 15 players roster, says something about his attitude and how our staff values him.
Then again, Larry Bird is very well known for liking Larry Bird clones a bit more than others :lol:

Troy Murphy, Luis Scola, Georges Niang, TJ Leaf, Uthoff might be the next in line in who Larry sees Larry
(I say Larry because I think Larry is still omnipresent and we still have/add some players who Larry really likes, how else can you explain the Larry Bird clones and Joe Young? everybody here sees Joe Young hasn't improved more than a tiny bit and still Pritchard wants to keep him? sounds a lot like a sign of respect from Kevin to Larry saying "hey man, you don't completely suck at drafting in the second round, I will just cut Niang and Christmas and leave you some dignity with Joe Young"

Anigbogu and Sumner are clearly Pritchard picks (Greg Oden, Brandon Roy) :lol:

Everybody else need to be playing games to see if we need to keep them or not.

basketballwacko2 · Post #19 » by **basketballwacko2** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:09 am

winter_mute_13 wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:You know speaking as a guy who just turned 55 in August, 37 is not that old!!

Sure, but I'm guessing you're not actually a professional athlete

What made Wilkins seem questionable wasn't just his age, but that he has been out of the league since 2013. In between, he played in the D-League (now G-League) and in South America, which isn't exactly the highest level of competition. But he's proven himself, even if it's just preseason, so that's that.

Well you're kinda making my point for me WM. Wilkins is a professional athlete, he's in much better shape than I was in at 37. I was in pretty good shape then that was before I broke my left leg and damaged my hip so bad I needed a new one later. As long as Wilkins has not had any major joint injuries he might still be good enough to make an NBA roster.

I don't expect much from a guy his age who has been out of the NBA for 3-4 yrs but he looked pretty good in preseason.

Wizop · Post #20 » by **Wizop** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:05 pm

I have hopes for Sumner and Ike but doubt their health this year.

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