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winter_mute_13 wrote:But I think most of us realize too that PG inadvertently did us a favor by pushing for a trade rather than keeping quiet and just walking at the end of the season. So it all worked out for the best.

winter_mute_13 wrote:

DusterBuster wrote:I still distinctly remember discussing some Paul deals on the Pacers forum here before PG made his intentions clear with the trade demand. Pacers fans telling me on here that George was a "generational" talent has ALWAYS stuck with me because of how crazy that was to me. Don't get me wrong, he's a really good player, I certainly would have taken him on my team, but I never ever ever thought of him in the light of a "generational" talent. I just considered him a solid all-star level guy, not that unlike Danny Granger before him. Seeing how fast you guys replaced him with something (arguably better) while he did little to impact his new team just kinda proved my theory that he's nothing more than a really good player.

Calling PG a "generational" talent seems excessive and I don't recall anyone saying that. If I had seen that statement made, I would have challenged it.

OTOH, suggesting that guys like PG are easily replaceable goes too far the other way. Sure, Dipo is probably on a similar tier, but I think most of us recognize that Dipo's emergence was a fluke in a lot of ways. Certainly no one is expecting us to add another Dipo level talent any time soon.

Fact is, PG has some claim to being the single best NBA player to have ever played for the Pacers. Maybe some would argue for Reggie's longevity and playoff heroics, maybe some would take JO's one MVP level season, maybe Oladipo would surpass him in time - but as of now PG is right up there. Maybe that says more about the Pacers than of PG, I don't know. But certainly I would put him on a level higher than Granger, who wasn't a bad player either.

There's still a lot of bad feeling towards PG from Pacer fans, for sure. But I think most of us realize too that PG inadvertently did us a favor by pushing for a trade rather than keeping quiet and just walking at the end of the season. So it all worked out for the best.

DusterBuster wrote:

Jake0890 wrote:Still, PG is a generational player. I think the team needs to do everything in their power to keep him around. As someone else said, we could have a top 10 pick in the next 10 drafts and never find a player of his caliber. He's more valuable than anything you could possibly trade him for.

Man, I just don't agree with this in the slightest. He's really good and I mean zero disrespect, but a 24pt/6reb SF who plays good D.... they don't fall off the tree every day but they also aren't what I would consider a "generational player". I'm sure this won't be a popular post, so as a disclaimer, I'm not going to go deep into that topic to avoid derailing the thread... but I just had to say my peace about that. I really just don't think he's THAT level of talent.

DusterBuster wrote:

winter_mute_13 wrote:

DusterBuster wrote:I still distinctly remember discussing some Paul deals on the Pacers forum here before PG made his intentions clear with the trade demand. Pacers fans telling me on here that George was a "generational" talent has ALWAYS stuck with me because of how crazy that was to me. Don't get me wrong, he's a really good player, I certainly would have taken him on my team, but I never ever ever thought of him in the light of a "generational" talent. I just considered him a solid all-star level guy, not that unlike Danny Granger before him. Seeing how fast you guys replaced him with something (arguably better) while he did little to impact his new team just kinda proved my theory that he's nothing more than a really good player.

Calling PG a "generational" talent seems excessive and I don't recall anyone saying that. If I had seen that statement made, I would have challenged it.

OTOH, suggesting that guys like PG are easily replaceable goes too far the other way. Sure, Dipo is probably on a similar tier, but I think most of us recognize that Dipo's emergence was a fluke in a lot of ways. Certainly no one is expecting us to add another Dipo level talent any time soon.

Fact is, PG has some claim to being the single best NBA player to have ever played for the Pacers. Maybe some would argue for Reggie's longevity and playoff heroics, maybe some would take JO's one MVP level season, maybe Oladipo would surpass him in time - but as of now PG is right up there. Maybe that says more about the Pacers than of PG, I don't know. But certainly I would put him on a level higher than Granger, who wasn't a bad player either.

There's still a lot of bad feeling towards PG from Pacer fans, for sure. But I think most of us realize too that PG inadvertently did us a favor by pushing for a trade rather than keeping quiet and just walking at the end of the season. So it all worked out for the best.

I decided to go hunting and found the past from last year....

DusterBuster wrote:

Jake0890 wrote:Still, PG is a generational player. I think the team needs to do everything in their power to keep him around. As someone else said, we could have a top 10 pick in the next 10 drafts and never find a player of his caliber. He's more valuable than anything you could possibly trade him for.

Man, I just don't agree with this in the slightest. He's really good and I mean zero disrespect, but a 24pt/6reb SF who plays good D.... they don't fall off the tree every day but they also aren't what I would consider a "generational player". I'm sure this won't be a popular post, so as a disclaimer, I'm not going to go deep into that topic to avoid derailing the thread... but I just had to say my peace about that. I really just don't think he's THAT level of talent.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1549741&p=55588337&hilit=generational#p55588337

Yikes, that post has aged even worse than I remembered...

skywalker33 wrote:Hearing Barton may be on your list, any rumors out in IND ??

winter_mute_13 wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:Hearing Barton may be on your list, any rumors out in IND ??

Well, Lance's option was just declined, which means there's an opening at backup SG...

Other than that, I don't think there's news.

Jake0890 wrote:If we didn’t just draft Aaron Holiday, I’d now say we should go after Yogi Ferrell.

He just got his QO rescinded.

Wizop wrote:Holiday and Yogi could be similar players. if the idea is to sign Hoosiers, Troy Williams was set loose today.

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