I'm sorry, but Al Jefferson needs minutes

[HurricaneDij25]

Right but when a guard is hurt.... a guard needs to step into the rotation. When a guard is hurt.... no big man minutes become available.

There are always ways to make minutes. Thaddeus Young of all people, for instance, is averaging 32.8 minutes per game. That's too many.

Turning an 8-man rotation into a 7-man rotation just because one player is out is nothing short of admitting defeat, though. Even cut down on Turner's minutes if he's not producing. Give the young player a hook once in awhile. No excuse for his one-point, two-rebound performance against the Timberwolves...

It didn't cut to 7. Joe Young was added to the rotation.

Even if Joe Young was getting legit rotation minutes as you claim, an 8-man rotation is still not nearly enough when your star player is out. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to be able to agree with you on this one.

My point with this whole thread was that the Pacers needed to expand their rotations with their best player out. They didn't do that, and it's a big reason we went on a five-game losing streak during that particular stretch and set us back considerably in the playoff standings.

[PTA]

There are always ways to make minutes. Thaddeus Young of all people, for instance, is averaging 32.8 minutes per game. That's too many.

Turning an 8-man rotation into a 7-man rotation just because one player is out is nothing short of admitting defeat, though. Even cut down on Turner's minutes if he's not producing. Give the young player a hook once in awhile. No excuse for his one-point, two-rebound performance against the Timberwolves...

It didn't cut to 7. Joe Young was added to the rotation.

Even if Joe Young was getting legit rotation minutes as you claim, an 8-man rotation is still not nearly enough when your star player is out. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to be able to agree with you on this one.

My point with this whole thread was that the Pacers needed to expand their rotations with their best player out. They didn't do that, and it's a big reason we went on a five-game losing streak during that particular stretch and set us back considerably in the playoff standings.

I'm sorry you think Al needs minutes. Pacers can't replace Depo. Lance tries to replace his energy but he is much less efficient. Al causes more problems on defense than he solves on offense. He may be better than last year but TJ is no worse on defense and and integrates better with small ball offense. Playing Ike Diogu would make more sense than playing Big Al. He moves much better, would play defense and his learning would accelerate.

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[PTA]

It didn't cut to 7. Joe Young was added to the rotation.

Even if Joe Young was getting legit rotation minutes as you claim, an 8-man rotation is still not nearly enough when your star player is out. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to be able to agree with you on this one.

My point with this whole thread was that the Pacers needed to expand their rotations with their best player out. They didn't do that, and it's a big reason we went on a five-game losing streak during that particular stretch and set us back considerably in the playoff standings.

I'm sorry you think Al needs minutes. Pacers can't replace Depo. Lance tries to replace his energy but he is much less efficient. Al causes more problems on defense than he solves on offense. He may be better than last year but TJ is no worse on defense and and integrates better with small ball offense. Playing Ike Diogu would make more sense than playing Big Al. He moves much better, would play defense and his learning would accelerate.

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I did not intend to include the quote in my post. Sorry

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[DoubleEagle4]

I would rather see TJ Leaf get more time in there, he helps spread out the floor and provides a spark. I have a hard time watching Jefferson jog up the floor and slow down the offense. I also would like to see Poythress get a little more playing time. When he comes in, he proves instant energy on defense and does not make many mistakes.

[Wizop]

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I did not intend to include the quote in my post. Sorry

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if you are using the Android App, reply includes the prior message. quick reply does not. if you use reply though, there is an edit symbol near the top, at least that's where I think it is, and you can use it to display the quote. I routinely do that and cut out the bulk of the quote only keeping enough to provide context to my reply.

[Grang33r]

Give credit where due.... Al played good tonight. Even on defense, he didn't look lost and confused. Was very refreshing to see.

[boomershadow]

I agree.

[PTA]

He was a positive.

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[Miller4ever]

The diet change has made him much better. That being said, he's still the 5th best big on the team.

[Wizop]

The diet change has made him much better. That being said, he's still the 5th best big on the team.

he's better than Ike.

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[Pacers_Freak]

The diet change has made him much better. That being said, he's still the 5th best big on the team.

I'd say 4th. But 4th, 5th, doesn't matter. Respect the way Al goes about his business. Most vets out of the rotation wouldn't be involved. He constantly works with the young bigs and when his number is called he steps in and does his job.

[Miller4ever]

I think he's a positive on the team, less so on the court.

[boomershadow]

I was critical of his signing and his play last year, but I'm happy to see what he's doing this year. He's looking like a decent backup big man in his minutes this year, and that's been important for this team when Turner has been out.

[Pacersike]

With Turner missing so many games, it's very good to have him

[HurricaneDij25]

Give credit where due.... Al played good tonight. Even on defense, he didn't look lost and confused. Was very refreshing to see.

Al does look a little of fat now after all those games sitting on the bench...

[cruwinas]

Yep, Al needs more minutes on the bench during the game. During practices - Pacers need to squeeze all the minutes from Al on the court.

[Pacersike]

It's very good to have Turner back lol

The problem with Al is that it looks worse than it really is. Sometimes it looks like he can't do anything right on defense but the Pacers have done allright defensively without Turner.

I like having him as our third center this season, but I won't shed a tear if he is gone next year

[Blockwatcher]

Trade him for CLee straight up?

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Trade him for CLee straight up?

Does Courtney Lee still have that horrible contract?

EDIT: Just looked it up. He definitely does. No thanks.

[Pacers_Freak]

Trade him for CLee straight up?

What else are you sending us for taking on that garbage deal?