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Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Fri May 4, 2018 9:15 pm
by boomershadow
From the comments Pritchard made during the press conference, I think anyone hoping for Kemba are going to be disappointed. KP is looking for shooting and players that can guard 1-3.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Fri May 4, 2018 9:20 pm
by basketballwacko2
Pacers_Freak wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
Pacers_Freak wrote:Kuzma is the only one of those guys I would consider a creator. Solid players no doubt. Creator is different. OG and Swanigan aren't getting their own shot.


I like OG for his defense at this point and I think he can develop the other aspects of the game. I doubt there is a way to get him from Toronto but I'd like to.


I don't disagree with your opinion on him. But, the original quote was of finding a creator in the draft. That is going to be difficult at #23 IMO.


I understand what you mean. This draft is deeper than last year we should be able to find someone who could have the kind of impact that we need. But I'm still upset about the pick of TJ Leaf because he was and still is no where near ready to play. OG, Kuzma, Collins, and Jarret Allen were all guys that would have helped us now. Hindsight maybe but I had all 4 of those guys rated higher than TJ. Hopefully we can make something out of TJ but I'm betting it won't be before 2019-20 at the earliest.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Fri May 4, 2018 11:56 pm
by 8305
Good players can be found in the twenties. You see one or two most every year. Generally they are not difference makers right away.

The only acquirable difference maker I see in this free agent class is Marcus Smart. Boston could match but At say 15 mil/yr they might blink. An elite defensive player who can guard 3-4 positions would make a difference on this Pacer team. You could run a three guard line up with Smart on the floor.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sat May 5, 2018 11:08 am
by 8305
boomershadow wrote:From the comments Pritchard made during the press conference, I think anyone hoping for Kemba are going to be disappointed. KP is looking for shooting and players that can guard 1-3.


I think it’s hard to draw any conclusion from the press conference/love fest. Not saying everyone didn’t earn it particularly Pritchard. I’m inclined to think that when the organization reboots and begins to consider strategy moving forward everyone may not be back and they will be open to more possibilities than we might think. Starting with Al Jefferson’s contract even if it simply means using the six million that can be saved to bring a rotation level free agent.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sat May 5, 2018 3:03 pm
by winter_mute_13
8305 wrote:
boomershadow wrote:From the comments Pritchard made during the press conference, I think anyone hoping for Kemba are going to be disappointed. KP is looking for shooting and players that can guard 1-3.


I think it’s hard to draw any conclusion from the press conference/love fest. Not saying everyone didn’t earn it particularly Pritchard. I’m inclined to think that when the organization reboots and begins to consider strategy moving forward everyone may not be back and they will be open to more possibilities than we might think. Starting with Al Jefferson’s contract even if it simply means using the six million that can be saved to bring a rotation level free agent.


See, this is where I think people expecting a big name splash either through FA or trade might end up being disappointed. I certainly got the feeling that bringing the same team back next year is a possibility... heck, KP even explicitly said Al Jeff might be back even if using his contract as an asset seems like a no-brainer.

The "keep everyone" idea actually has some merit because nearly the whole roster would be on 1 year deals and then we can go into 2019 FA with even more massive cap space... more than we would have this year.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sat May 5, 2018 11:15 pm
by Wizop
Ilyasova?

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Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 6:40 am
by Vorda
Wizop wrote:Ilyasova?

Sent from my phone.



You need something from Turkey?

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 6:44 am
by Vorda
Hezonja is free agent and we can take him for 7-9 millions... he can be good back up to Bojan... he made great impact this year... he is only 23... good adition to our young team..

Re: RE: Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 12:34 pm
by Wizop
Vorda wrote:
Wizop wrote:Ilyasova?

Sent from my phone.



You need something from Turkey?
what does national origin have to do with anything?

Sent from my phone.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 1:10 pm
by MUpacersSIC
Vorda wrote:Hezonja is free agent and we can take him for 7-9 millions... he can be good back up to Bojan... he made great impact this year... he is only 23... good adition to our young team..


I think this may be the best option to add a young piece with plenty of potential without breaking up the team.


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Re: RE: Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 2:13 pm
by Vorda
Wizop wrote:
Vorda wrote:
Wizop wrote:Ilyasova?

Sent from my phone.



You need something from Turkey?
what does national origin have to do with anything?

Sent from my phone.


We dont need him as a player... so I was wondering Why did you remember him?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 2:40 pm
by Wizop
Vorda wrote:
Wizop wrote:
Vorda wrote:

You need something from Turkey?
what does national origin have to do with anything?

Sent from my phone.


We dont need him as a player... so I was wondering Why did you remember him?
because I was watching Ilyasova hit 3s in the Boston Philly series. it had me thinking he would've been more useful than Booker. really though I'm hoping TJ will be ready for the scant minutes available for a 4th big.

Sent from my phone.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 8:36 pm
by Topofthekey
Adding a bit on the possibility of signing Clint Capella:

With just 7 players under contract next year, Rockets' payroll is already pushing 80m. Assuming they bring CP3 back on a max contract, something around 35m, that's about 110-115m, with only 8 players under contract

Suppose they match a max offer for Capella as well, at around 25m, that pushes their payroll to almost 140m with only 9 players under contract

I know their owner has said he's willing to pay for a title contender, but that just seems a bit much doesn't it

While it's entirely possible they're going to go ahead and just pay up, seems like there's a chance here for another team to sign Capella away from them

And yes, we know Pacers don't need another C, but what Capella brings as a player is exactly what Pacers lack from their bigs: toughness, interior defense, rebounding

Perhaps move Myles to PF full-time and have him start together with Capella, and let Sabonis continue coming off the bench. Thad can backup the PF spot, and take turns with Bojan to start at SF, depending on whether Pacers want size and hustle or shooting for any given match-up

Having someone tough like Capella manning the C position, and allowing Myles to play full time stretch 4 where he can fully utilize his shooting seems intriguing to me

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 9:47 pm
by Tippy
I think the only way we bring in a guy like Capella is if we are planning on moving one of Turner/Domas for another asset.

Hopefully we are making a plan on how to make Turner and Domas on the floor together work.
I'm hoping we try and start Turner and Domas together, getting them both as many minutes as possible.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Sun May 6, 2018 10:37 pm
by Tom White
Topofthekey wrote:Adding a bit on the possibility of signing Clint Capella:

With just 7 players under contract next year, Rockets' payroll is already pushing 80m. Assuming they bring CP3 back on a max contract, something around 35m, that's about 110-115m, with only 8 players under contract

Suppose they match a max offer for Capella as well, at around 25m, that pushes their payroll to almost 140m with only 9 players under contract



And that is the problem going after Capella. IF he is going to demand a salary that high, then it would not be a far step until the Pacers would find themselves in the same fix as the Rockets are facing. That's not a good situation to be in.

I know you have to pay good players a good salary, but I'd much prefer the Pacers don't join the ranks of other teams who have spent themselves into oblivion.

Matter of fact, if CP3 insists on the kind of money you speculate he will, the Rockets should let him walk. He isn't worth it. I can't think of a current player who is.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Mon May 7, 2018 12:30 am
by MUpacersSIC
I like what I see from Dante Exum when he plays. Anyone else interested?


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Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Mon May 7, 2018 1:53 am
by Tippy
MUpacersSIC wrote:I like what I see from Dante Exum when he plays. Anyone else interested?


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Should be one of the young unproven FA we at least look in to.

M.Hezonja
Jerami Grant
D.Exum
GRIII

Young guys who should come at a reasonable price. Would rather take a gamble on a young guy that can make a jump (similar to Domas Victor) than overpay for a RFA or other mediocre FA.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Mon May 7, 2018 2:58 am
by basketballwacko2
MUpacersSIC wrote:
Vorda wrote:Hezonja is free agent and we can take him for 7-9 millions... he can be good back up to Bojan... he made great impact this year... he is only 23... good adition to our young team..


I think this may be the best option to add a young piece with plenty of potential without breaking up the team.


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Hezonja did make a big improvement after the Magic decided not to pick up his option. He wants to say in the USA rather than go back to the Euro League.

I'd take a flyer on him for 3 yrs $7 million with raises and I'd like the 3rd year to have a partial guarantee.

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Mon May 7, 2018 1:18 pm
by Pacers_Freak
Tom White wrote:
Topofthekey wrote:Adding a bit on the possibility of signing Clint Capella:

With just 7 players under contract next year, Rockets' payroll is already pushing 80m. Assuming they bring CP3 back on a max contract, something around 35m, that's about 110-115m, with only 8 players under contract

Suppose they match a max offer for Capella as well, at around 25m, that pushes their payroll to almost 140m with only 9 players under contract



And that is the problem going after Capella. IF he is going to demand a salary that high, then it would not be a far step until the Pacers would find themselves in the same fix as the Rockets are facing. That's not a good situation to be in.

I know you have to pay good players a good salary, but I'd much prefer the Pacers don't join the ranks of other teams who have spent themselves into oblivion.

Matter of fact, if CP3 insists on the kind of money you speculate he will, the Rockets should let him walk. He isn't worth it. I can't think of a current player who is.


Lebron

Re: Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Posted: Mon May 7, 2018 1:19 pm
by Pacers_Freak
MUpacersSIC wrote:I like what I see from Dante Exum when he plays. Anyone else interested?


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I like Exum. We are just kind of crowded at that spot for the moment.