Potential FA to pursue this offseason

Indy4Life · Post #401 » by **Indy4Life** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 1:56 pm

I don't think we will make many more if any additional signings. I believe the remainder of our work will come through trades.

Jstock12 · Post #402 » by **Jstock12** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 2:00 pm

8305 wrote:
Vorda wrote:
granger05 wrote:Hezonja deal makes me irritated about McDermott's

I just cant belive that Pritch did that move... Hezonja is player with a lot more potencial than McD...

While he probably will never be a talent you associate with the number 5 pick he’s still a guy with excellent size, athleticism and skill level.

I think he can definitely still be a talent you could associate with the number 5 pick. I took a look at all the number 5 picks since 2004 and the list really isn't that breathtaking.

2004 - Shaun Livingston
2005 - Raymond Felton
2006 - Shelden Williams
2007 - Jeff Green
2008 - Kevin Love
2009 - Ricky Rubio
2010 - DeMarcus Cousins
2011 - Jonas Valanciunas
2012 - Thomas Robinson
2013 - Alex Len
2014 - Dante Exum
2015 - Mario Hezonja
2016 - Kris Dunn
2017 - De'Aaron Fox

Tom White · Post #403 » by **Tom White** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:18 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
I think he can definitely still be a talent you could associate with the number 5 pick. I took a look at all the number 5 picks since 2004 and the list really isn't that breathtaking.

2004 - Shaun Livingston
2005 - Raymond Felton
2006 - Shelden Williams
2007 - Jeff Green
2008 - Kevin Love
2009 - Ricky Rubio
2010 - DeMarcus Cousins
2011 - Jonas Valanciunas
2012 - Thomas Robinson
2013 - Alex Len
2014 - Dante Exum
2015 - Mario Hezonja
2016 - Kris Dunn
2017 - De'Aaron Fox

I think you could put together a pretty good team with that list.

Jstock12 · Post #404 » by **Jstock12** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:32 pm

Tom White wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:
I think he can definitely still be a talent you could associate with the number 5 pick. I took a look at all the number 5 picks since 2004 and the list really isn't that breathtaking.

2004 - Shaun Livingston
2005 - Raymond Felton
2006 - Shelden Williams
2007 - Jeff Green
2008 - Kevin Love
2009 - Ricky Rubio
2010 - DeMarcus Cousins
2011 - Jonas Valanciunas
2012 - Thomas Robinson
2013 - Alex Len
2014 - Dante Exum
2015 - Mario Hezonja
2016 - Kris Dunn
2017 - De'Aaron Fox

I think you could put together a pretty good team with that list.

Yes, and Hezonja would get minutes on that team. That was my point

Post #405 » by **pacers33granger** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:41 pm

granger05 wrote:Hezonja deal makes me irritated about McDermott's

Reports say that he turned down multi-year offers and wanted to have a chance to play so he likely wasn't a good option for us. He wouldn't have gotten near the chance he will in NY if he signed here and could've very likely ended up rotting on our bench since we wouldn't have the luxury of letting him play through mistakes as much.

8305 · Post #406 » by **8305** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 5:34 pm

pacers33granger wrote:
granger05 wrote:Hezonja deal makes me irritated about McDermott's

Reports say that he turned down multi-year offers and wanted to have a chance to play so he likely wasn't a good option for us. He wouldn't have gotten near the chance he will in NY if he signed here and could've very likely ended up rotting on our bench since we wouldn't have the luxury of letting him play through mistakes as much.

Do we really envy NY's situation? IF they don't give him some rope they are wasting their time. On some level same for us. If he doesn't perform he will cost them some games (maybe not a big problem for the Knicks, but it would be a big deal to us). If he does perform he's a UFA nest summer and is now commanding big money that you will have to match.

Good for him having the confidence to do the one year deal. Maybe we are targeting him next summer?

Post #407 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 7:27 pm

Sometimes guys want one year deals to prove themselves and get a lot more money next year. Sometimes, we’re not willing to do that.

basketballwacko2 · Post #408 » by **basketballwacko2** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 8:05 pm

pacers33granger wrote:
granger05 wrote:Hezonja deal makes me irritated about McDermott's

Reports say that he turned down multi-year offers and wanted to have a chance to play so he likely wasn't a good option for us. He wouldn't have gotten near the chance he will in NY if he signed here and could've very likely ended up rotting on our bench since we wouldn't have the luxury of letting him play through mistakes as much.

My guess is that not being from the US he probably couldn't find Indiana on a map and figured he'd be better off in NYC. That and he might be able to get more PT for the Knicks.

If he wanted a 1 year deal he might have in mind to play well and then get a bigger contract in 2019.

basketballwacko2 · Post #409 » by **basketballwacko2** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 8:19 pm

MUpacersSIC wrote:I’d throw a one year deal at Randle and see what happens.

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Randle can't shoot a lick. We would have been better off with Noel who signed at OKC for a Vet Minimum deal for 2 years.

I'm hearing Randle wants to go back to the Lakers.

Pacernation · Post #410 » by **Pacernation** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 8:30 pm

How about bjelica. Should be available for a pretty cheap price. Prototypical stretch four with experience and plays the right way. Not a sexy pick up but i think he's very good and underused..

Wizop · Post #411 » by **Wizop** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 8:41 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:Randle can't shoot a lick. We would have been better off with Noel who signed at OKC for a Vet Minimum deal for 2 years.

the key question in my mind is backup 2 not backup 5. now Randle at a low price would be nice if LA is forced to cut him loose to make cap room for another huge deal, but that might not happen. he might even go to the Spurs in a sign and trade. however, if we don't find a SG that requires more cap room than we have now, I can live with Big Al for a final year.

summer league could tell a lot. is Moore ready to get some minutes at 2? is Holiday good enough to get the 2nd unit minutes at 1 pushing CoJo to 2nd unit 2? is one of the wannabes good enough to stick at the end of the bench?

winter_mute_13 · Post #412 » by **winter_mute_13** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:34 pm

Read on Twitter

I don't really think we need another big, but it's a possible buy low opportunity.

Tom White · Post #413 » by **Tom White** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:50 pm

Wizop wrote:
.....is Holiday good enough to get the 2nd unit minutes at 1 pushing CoJo to 2nd unit 2?

I've been thinking that could be a really good 2nd unit set of guards.

babyjax13 · Post #414 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:57 pm

Randle makes way too much sense on your roster IMO. I get that people like guys that can hit threes, but Randle is very effective and you have two great stretch 5's.

winter_mute_13 · Post #415 » by **winter_mute_13** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Randle to New Orleans. Cheap deal too.

Wizop · Post #416 » by **Wizop** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:04 pm

Evans much better fit than Randle.

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Post #417 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:30 pm

Pacernation wrote:How about bjelica. Should be available for a pretty cheap price. Prototypical stretch four with experience and plays the right way. Not a sexy pick up but i think he's very good and underused..

If shootings the goal he’s definitely a solid option.

He’s a bit old, though.

Post #418 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:31 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Randle to New Orleans. Cheap deal too.

He got a 2 year MLE with a player option on the 2nd year.

Post #419 » by **Jake0890** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:46 pm

New Orleans got a great deal on Randle

Post #420 » by **pacers33granger** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:49 pm

Pacernation wrote:How about bjelica. Should be available for a pretty cheap price. Prototypical stretch four with experience and plays the right way. Not a sexy pick up but i think he's very good and underused..

He's going to be a good pickup for some team, but I think we'd be better served just letting Leaf play and having a vet min guy like Booker as an emergency 5th big.