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ahartleyvu wrote:Let’s consider 2 things

1- We won’t be able to sign a top FA
2- If a second/third tier star is available, we most likely have to over pay

Parsons + 4 for Bogdanovic + Jefferson + 23... gonna go ahead and assume this wouldn’t be enough for the 4th pick.

Bayless + 10th pick for Jefferson + cash + 23
Bayless + Fultz for Jefferson + Joseph or Bog + 23

I think Philly might consider that first one assuming that gives them leverage to sign Lebron. They cut Jeff, sign Lebron and still could flip Fultz + 23 for an established player.

Deng + Ball/Kuzma for Jefferson + Joseph + 23?

I just think we can capitalize on Jefferson being unguaranteed while these teams fight for Lebron

ahartleyvu wrote:Let’s consider 2 things

1- We won’t be able to sign a top FA
2- If a second/third tier star is available, we most likely have to over pay

ahartleyvu wrote:Bayless + 10th pick for Jefferson + cash + 23
Bayless + Fultz for Jefferson + Joseph or Bog + 23

I think Philly might consider that first one assuming that gives them leverage to sign Lebron. They cut Jeff, sign Lebron and still could flip Fultz + 23 for an established player.

Wizop wrote:

ahartleyvu wrote:Bayless + 10th pick for Jefferson + cash + 23
Bayless + Fultz for Jefferson + Joseph or Bog + 23

I think Philly might consider that first one assuming that gives them leverage to sign Lebron. They cut Jeff, sign Lebron and still could flip Fultz + 23 for an established player.

I can't see Philly wanting more picks in this draft. they currently have 10, 26, 38, 39, 56, and 60. they should either be selling picks or looking to trade picks this year for picks in future years.

Nuggets cut costs
Nuggets get: Al Jefferson and No. 23

Pacers get: Kenneth Faried and No. 14

Bobby Marks: Indiana's cost of moving up nine in this trade is taking back Faried's $13.7 million expiring contract. Because of the uncertainty with Thaddeus Young potentially opting out of his salary for 2018-19, the Pacers could accomplish two goals: acquiring a lottery pick to strengthen the depth in their backcourt -- in Lonnie Walker IV or Zhaire Smith -- while also getting a player in Faried who does not impact cap flexibility in 2019-20. For that season, the Pacers will have only Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis and their 2018 first-round pick under contract. Center Myles Turner will be a restricted free agent.

The Nuggets falling back nine slots would be purely a financial decision. With the pending $147 million max contract of Nikola Jokic, Denver is headed toward the luxury tax and could lose free agent Will Barton. Jefferson has $4 million of his $10 million contract guaranteed and would be waived prior to his July 2 guarantee date. Once waived, Denver would stretch his contract over three seasons and incur a $1.3 million annual cap hit.

Because Jefferson was signed prior to the most recent collective bargaining agreement, his full salary and not the guaranteed portion would count in a trade.

The trade would save Denver $50 million in salary and luxury tax if Barton is brought back on a $8 million starting salary. Electing not to bring back the guard would see the Nuggets fall beneath the luxury tax threshold.

Scoot McGroot wrote:Also, in order to deal Bogs or Collison, we have to fully guarantee their salaries for next year, which would defeat the purpose for the teams looking to dump salary by dealing for them.

If we want to take on salary dumps, look for the Pacers to waive Bogs/Collison to do so.

Wizop wrote:I found it interesting that in the presser online at the Star the Pacer FO guy said something about whether have pick, 11, 19 or 23. 11 is Charlotte and 19 is the middle one of Atlanta's three. did he slip and mention picks that are in play? 11 is a lot better than 14 or 15 which aren't much better than 19 to me.

Wizop wrote:I found it interesting that in the presser online at the Star the Pacer FO guy said something about whether have pick, 11, 19 or 23. 11 is Charlotte and 19 is the middle one of Atlanta's three. did he slip and mention picks that are in play? 11 is a lot better than 14 or 15 which aren't much better than 19 to me.

Tom White wrote:You mean the interview with Ryan Carr? I think he was just spouting out numbers off the cuff. Didn't read more into it. Would be interesting if there was more to it though.

SmashMouthRod wrote:I would entertain the Memphis bad contract scenario or the Charlotte situation. I think either of those can help the team a lot. Most preferably the Grizzlies number 4 pick. But if Kemba could be had attached to Batums bad deal, I would consider it. It would create an interesting starting lineup and overall strong rotation.

Walker/Collison
Oladipo/Stephenson
Batum/ Stephenson
Young/Leaf
Turner/Sabonis

pizza guy wrote:

SmashMouthRod wrote:I would entertain the Memphis bad contract scenario or the Charlotte situation. I think either of those can help the team a lot. Most preferably the Grizzlies number 4 pick. But if Kemba could be had attached to Batums bad deal, I would consider it. It would create an interesting starting lineup and overall strong rotation.

Walker/Collison
Oladipo/Stephenson
Batum/ Stephenson
Young/Leaf
Turner/Sabonis

I'd rather take on Marvin Williams than Batum, I think. But either way, I'd be thrilled if we end up with Kemba. I think he and Dipo could do work together, and I think Kemba's a great fit in the locker room and would re-sign here (plus we'd have his Bird rights, making it a little easier to re-sign him).

Wizop wrote:wiretap has Bucks offering Dellavedova. trade checker says we have cap room to absorb the contract (I put in Betts to have something). strangely including Joe Young didn't work. anyway, I'd take him to trade up from 23 to 17.