Noah Vonleh?

[basketballwacko2]

As you may know I'm not really impressed with TJ Leaf, I think he needs to play the whole year in the G-League. And it looks like Ike is injured again. Therefor he won't be with the Pacers on a daily basis, that creates a need for depth at PF.

Vonleh is not getting much interest from the Bulls as an RFA. I'd like to shoot him an offer $3 million 2 years with a player option in year 2.

Question is would he sign for that and would the bulls let him go, I'd give a top 45 protected 2nd in 2021 for him.

[SmashMouthRod]

I think that could be a good move. A prove it type of deal. Especially with Indy's history in developing guys. He is already a decent defensive player. His offense was known to be raw and needed work when he was drafted but teams have been impatient with him. Maybe lightning can strike twice similarly to the Jermaine O'Neal situation. I think they used the last of the spending money on O'Quinn though. Imagine if this guy finally turns the corner and we get him for pennies on the dollar? I know its off topic but this reminds me that Some part of me is afraid we let GR3 go a lil too early. And he signed for 3 years only 8 mill. It will look bad on us If he goes out there to Detroit on that type of deal and becomes one of the better three and D wings.

[SmashMouthRod]

Collison/Cojo/Holiday
Oladipo/Evans
Bogie/McBuckets
Young/Vonleh
Turner/Sabonis

[Wizop]

I really don't think the power forward position is a problem even without Leaf, but we do have a roster spot. we have Thad, Sabonis, O'Quinn, Alize, and even Turner who can play the 4. Ike when healthy is a 5 and I think O'Quinn is expected to provide depth at both 4 and 5.

bottom line if I were coaching I would want to give Sabonis and Turner regular minutes at 4 as well as 5.

[Tom White]

As an IU fan, he was one of the most infuriating guys I've ever watched play. He always was trying to make even the simplest play into a much more complicated one. I also always thought he played a lot more for himself than for the team. That would not fit in here.

[Scoot McGroot]

All we have left are vet minimum deals. $1.512m cap hit, with the players actually salary varying from there.

[donkeylips]

Collison/Cojo/Holiday
Oladipo/Evans
Bogie/McBuckets
Young/Vonleh
Turner/Sabonis

Don’t forget o’quinn

[basketballwacko2]

All we have left are vet minimum deals. $1.512m cap hit, with the players actually salary varying from there.

Yeah after I posted this thread I was adding it up and we're right at the cap. What about the BAE? I'd sign him to a 1 year vet min deal as an emergency big and send TJ to the GLeague.

[winter_mute_13]

All we have left are vet minimum deals. $1.512m cap hit, with the players actually salary varying from there.

Yeah after I posted this thread I was adding it up and we're right at the cap. What about the BAE? I'd sign him to a 1 year vet min deal as an emergency big and send TJ to the GLeague.

No BAE and no MLE if the team is using cap space. Just the room exception which we already used on KOQ. Scoot is right, it's minimum deals from here on out.

I think we need wing depth more than anything else. Just watch, we're going to sign another Damien Wilkins.

[Scoot McGroot]

All we have left are vet minimum deals. $1.512m cap hit, with the players actually salary varying from there.

Yeah after I posted this thread I was adding it up and we're right at the cap. What about the BAE? I'd sign him to a 1 year vet min deal as an emergency big and send TJ to the GLeague.

No BAE and no MLE if the team is using cap space. Just the room exception which we already used on KOQ. Scoot is right, it's minimum deals from here on out.

I think we need wing depth more than anything else. Just watch, we're going to sign another Damien Wilkins.

I don’t know about wing depth needs. Joseph can play at the 2, if Holiday can earn some minutes at the 1. That allows us to play Tyreke some at the 3. It’s also possible Alize gets signed and gets some emergency minutes at the 3/4. Poythress would’ve filled some of those same 3/4 minutes.

A vet win could still be signed, for sure though.

[Jake0890]

KP said the free agency work is done. I would be surprised if we signed any other FA (not including Alize - he's not even a FA).

But like someone said above Noah Vonleh was infuriating to watch at IU. When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him. Vonleh is slowly getting better, but dude is still shooting 41% from the field. I'd rather let Leaf take the floor than bother with him.

[Wizop]

When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him.

he didn't clear waivers so we wouldn't have had a shot at him as Knicks had a higher claim.

[Scoot McGroot]

When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him.

he didn't clear waivers so we wouldn't have had a shot at him as Knicks had a higher claim.

Wizards got him.

[Wizop]

When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him.

he didn't clear waivers so we wouldn't have had a shot at him as Knicks had a higher claim.

Wizards got him.

oops. senior moment. still, they had a worse record than we did too, so their claim would have had priority.. at least that's how I think it works, but maybe I'm thinking of football.

[Tom White]

KP said the free agency work is done. I would be surprised if we signed any other FA (not including Alize - he's not even a FA).

But like someone said above Noah Vonleh was infuriating to watch at IU. When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him. Vonleh is slowly getting better, but dude is still shooting 41% from the field. I'd rather let Leaf take the floor than bother with him.

Bryant was another IU player who was frustrating to watch. He had such a size advantage over most of his opponents, yet wanted to play on the perimeter all the time. He could have been much more effective down low, but seemed determined to launch away from 3 point land.

Now, some of that may have been on the coach. I felt like the players were running the team more than Crean was running it. Of course that was either good or bad depending on your opinion of Crean.

[Jake0890]

KP said the free agency work is done. I would be surprised if we signed any other FA (not including Alize - he's not even a FA).

But like someone said above Noah Vonleh was infuriating to watch at IU. When Thomas Bryant was released, I kinda wished we had been in on him. Vonleh is slowly getting better, but dude is still shooting 41% from the field. I'd rather let Leaf take the floor than bother with him.

Bryant was another IU player who was frustrating to watch. He had such a size advantage over most of his opponents, yet wanted to play on the perimeter all the time. He could have been much more effective down low, but seemed determined to launch away from 3 point land.

Now, some of that may have been on the coach. I felt like the players were running the team more than Crean was running it. Of course that was either good or bad depending on your opinion of Crean.

Thomas Bryant his first year showed flashes of Cody Zeller. Kid shot 68%!!!

His deciding to come back for a second year was kinda surprising and I think ended up hurting his draft stock as his second year was worse than his first.

[cruwinas]

I'm really disappointed in Leaf. Any replacement would benefit the team.