Trey Lyles

gmc5032 · Post #1 » by **gmc5032** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 9:57 am

Any chance we sign Lyles with the MLE? We need help at the backup forward spot and I believe Lyles can play both SF and PF. Thoughts?

winter_mute_13 · Post #2 » by **winter_mute_13** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:36 pm

No MLE since Pacers used cap space this season. Do you mean the room exception?

He doesn't have a great rep regarding work ethic, so I'm not sure he's a guy the Pacers will look at. But hey maybe the report was wrong.

Post #3 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 8:46 pm

Trey is likely a one year vet minimum contract kind of guy.

SmashMouthRod · Post #4 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:16 am

I like Lyles. He is capable of putting up scoring numbers as a starter or off the bench in short minutes. He is better suited to play the 4 which is more of what this team needs. His timeline fits with the roster even though he may be more of a short term rotational player.

Post #5 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:38 am

winter_mute_13 wrote:No MLE since Pacers used cap space this season. Do you mean the room exception?

He doesn't have a great rep regarding work ethic, so I'm not sure he's a guy the Pacers will look at. But hey maybe the report was wrong.

I think poor work ethic is the least thing i'm worried about if it's about bringing in one guy into the organization. Even guys like Sumner, who told the Athletic, he will be spending most of his summer in Indianapolis working with Pacers staff on his game. Pacers have build a great winning culture, as noted by TJ Warren in his press conference. They replaced departures with more hard working players who want to strive for more.

If a lack of work ethic is the reason for Lyles downfall in the NBA, then maybe even a team like the Pacers would be the perfect fit for him. One guy won't take this organization down. But being surrounded by leaders and hard working players is what he needs, that extra motivation. If you are still a lazy player after being on a team like the Pacers, you have serious issues,

Post #6 » by **boomershadow** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:40 am

It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

Pacers_Freak · Post #7 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:05 pm

boomershadow wrote:It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

I think you will see another big brought in. Counting on Goga and Leaf is a huge gamble. I'm also not convinced Sumner is a rotation player.

Wizop · Post #8 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:00 pm

Pacers_Freak wrote:
boomershadow wrote:It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

I think you will see another big brought in. Counting on Goga and Leaf is a huge gamble. I'm also not convinced Sumner is a rotation player.

I'm not convinced Holiday can beat McConnell.

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Pacers_Freak · Post #9 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:38 pm

Wizop wrote:
Pacers_Freak wrote:
boomershadow wrote:It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

I think you will see another big brought in. Counting on Goga and Leaf is a huge gamble. I'm also not convinced Sumner is a rotation player.
I'm not convinced Holiday can beat McConnell.

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I 100% agree. In fact, I predict McConnell wins that spot.

basketballwacko2 · Post #10 » by **basketballwacko2** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 pm

gmc5032 wrote:Any chance we sign Lyles with the MLE? We need help at the backup forward spot and I believe Lyles can play both SF and PF. Thoughts?

It would have to be he Room exception. You only get the MLE if you don't have room.

basketballwacko2 · Post #11 » by **basketballwacko2** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:27 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Trey is likely a one year vet minimum contract kind of guy.

I'd give him a shot on a non-guaranteed vet minimum deal.

Post #12 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:51 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Trey is likely a one year vet minimum contract kind of guy.

I'd give him a shot on a non-guaranteed vet minimum deal.

I would bet several teams would and that he and his agent would be picking the spot he has a chance to succeed. May or may not be here. Doubt he’d choose to take a non guaranteed deal unless it was his last chance.

Vorda · Post #13 » by **Vorda** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:54 am

boomershadow wrote:It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

We need one more big... Leaf and Goga are not enough for bench....

Post #14 » by **Nuntius** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:18 am

I'd gladly welcome Lyles here. Ex-lottery pick that needs a change of scenery and isn't even 24 years old yet. A pretty small gamble to take, especially on a cheap deal.

Post #15 » by **Grang33r** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:57 am

Woj reporting Spurs are signing Lyles.

Post #16 » by **boomershadow** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:02 am

Wizop wrote:
Pacers_Freak wrote:
boomershadow wrote:It seems like the rotation is pretty full already. I expect any other move we make to be end of bench or development guys.

I think you will see another big brought in. Counting on Goga and Leaf is a huge gamble. I'm also not convinced Sumner is a rotation player.
I'm not convinced Holiday can beat McConnell.

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If McConell gets minutes over Holiday....I'm gonna go literally crazy.

But I'm scared you might be right.

Wizop · Post #17 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:14 am

If McConell gets minutes over Holiday....I'm gonna go literally crazy.

But I'm scared you might be right.

you don't gift players time. they must earn it. for example, many think Tinsley was spoiled because Zeke made him the starter in training camp. no reason to go crazy if Holiday shows less than McConnell or even Sumner.

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Boneman2 · Post #18 » by **Boneman2** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:25 am

Grang33r wrote:Woj reporting Spurs are signing Lyles.

This is a good opportunity for Trey. I hope he does well.

Pacers_Freak · Post #19 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:52 am

boomershadow wrote:
Wizop wrote:
Pacers_Freak wrote:
I think you will see another big brought in. Counting on Goga and Leaf is a huge gamble. I'm also not convinced Sumner is a rotation player.
I'm not convinced Holiday can beat McConnell.

Sent from my phone.

If McConell gets minutes over Holiday....I'm gonna go literally crazy.

But I'm scared you might be right.

If he’s not good enough to beat out TJ McConnell then what’s the big deal?

Post #20 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:09 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Trey is likely a one year vet minimum contract kind of guy.

Well, I'm a fool.

Lyles got a 2 yr/$11m deal in San Antonio. Granted, they were under a weird pressure since Marcus Morris was leaving them in a lurch after they had already dealt out Bertans to clear the MLE to sign Morris with, but still. A lot more than I thought.