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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#2 » by Hoop Hunter » Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:16 pm

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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#3 » by Wizop » Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:46 pm

That game is in my half season package. I just listed the tickets for sale at about 4 times face just in case. I know. Greedy. but I'll bring the price down or just go depending upon the market.

EDIT: now listed for twice face. if I don't get a big profit, we'll just go to the game.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#4 » by Jake0890 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:52 pm

I'm not convinced that setting a return date 3 weeks out without fully practicing yet is the best idea, but I am excited to see Victor on the court again.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#5 » by Wizop » Wed Jan 8, 2020 9:17 pm

Jake0890 wrote:I'm not convinced that setting a return date 3 weeks out without fully practicing yet is the best idea, but I am excited to see Victor on the court again.


hasn't he fully practiced with the Ants and the 3rd unit?
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#6 » by Jake0890 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 9:54 pm

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Jake0890 wrote:I'm not convinced that setting a return date 3 weeks out without fully practicing yet is the best idea, but I am excited to see Victor on the court again.


hasn't he fully practiced with the Ants and the 3rd unit?


I think you're right, but if Victor is only fully practicing with the Ants and the 3rd unit, is he really fully practicing?

I want to see him go full speed with the first team before we starting giving return dates.
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Post#7 » by Wizop » Wed Jan 8, 2020 10:38 pm

Jake0890 wrote:I want to see him go full speed with the first team before we starting giving return dates.


why? he doesn't need to play 30 minutes with the first unit right away. if I were McMillan, I'd start him so he hit the floor fully warmed up, give him six minutes, sit him until half time, and repeat the process in the 2nd half. maybe if he's kicking butt, he'd play some more in the final 3 minutes.

does anyone get in game shape practicing? I think the answer is no which means that even fully recovered he should be on some sort of pitch count to begin with.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#8 » by Jake0890 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 12:26 am

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Jake0890 wrote:I want to see him go full speed with the first team before we starting giving return dates.


why? he doesn't need to play 30 minutes with the first unit right away. if I were McMillan, I'd start him so he hit the floor fully warmed up, give him six minutes, sit him until half time, and repeat the process in the 2nd half. maybe if he's kicking butt, he'd play some more in the final 3 minutes.

does anyone get in game shape practicing? I think the answer is no which means that even fully recovered he should be on some sort of pitch count to begin with.


I agree, he shouldn't (and won't) play 30 minutes right away.

My comment is more about him being 100% than in "shape". If my star player isn't 100% enough to scrimmage with his own teammates, I'm not sure I want to put him out there in-game action and risk physical (or mental) setbacks if he is coming back too early.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

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Jake0890 wrote:I want to see him go full speed with the first team before we starting giving return dates.


why? he doesn't need to play 30 minutes with the first unit right away. if I were McMillan, I'd start him so he hit the floor fully warmed up, give him six minutes, sit him until half time, and repeat the process in the 2nd half. maybe if he's kicking butt, he'd play some more in the final 3 minutes.

does anyone get in game shape practicing? I think the answer is no which means that even fully recovered he should be on some sort of pitch count to begin with.


I agree, he shouldn't (and won't) play 30 minutes right away.

My comment is more about him being 100% than in "shape". If my star player isn't 100% enough to scrimmage with his own teammates, I'm not sure I want to put him out there in-game action and risk physical (or mental) setbacks if he is coming back too early.



The pacers are using it to advertise ticket sales. One would assume they’re feeling pretty “ok” with his shape. We’re hearing a lot of different things but he’s apparently been well recovered from the knee for a bit but nowhere near game shape, which is what he’s been working up to. 3 weeks is apparently plenty of time, but more importantly after a 5 game road trip, time off after, and very few back to backs the rest of the way. One would think that maybe the timing of that spot has already been the “safety net” from the franchise and doctors.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#10 » by boomershadow » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:39 am

I really doubt after all this time off that they're rushing him back before he's ready. If anything, I'm sure it's the opposite.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#11 » by Pacersike » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:50 am

boomershadow wrote:I really doubt after all this time off that they're rushing him back before he's ready. If anything, I'm sure it's the opposite.

Right, no worrries, Vic knows what he is doing 8-)

29, what a beautiful date to look forward to :D
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#12 » by boomershadow » Thu Jan 9, 2020 12:06 pm

Who do you think moves out of the rotation when Oladipo gets back to playing regular minutes. I assume Lamb goes to the bench, so one of the bench guys gets his minutes reduced. J Holiday? McConnell? McDermott?

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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#13 » by Wizop » Thu Jan 9, 2020 2:17 pm

Jake0890 wrote:If my star player isn't 100% enough to scrimmage with his own teammates, I'm not sure I want to put him out there in-game action and risk physical (or mental) setbacks if he is coming back too early.


on last night's game telecast they had a few second film clip of him participating in one of this week's practices.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#14 » by Pacers_Freak » Thu Jan 9, 2020 2:37 pm

Lot of medical professionals in this thread.
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Post#15 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jan 9, 2020 2:49 pm

Pacers_Freak wrote:Lot of medical professionals in this thread.


Haven’t seen a single comment that would lend itself forwards or against that. Just, it seems, people expressing optimism or caution. Why shouldn’t they? :dontknow:

If you want medical professionals in a thread, you should’ve seen the post PG injury threads, or anything involving Brandon Ingram or Chris Bosh on the forums post DVT. :lol:
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#16 » by Pacers_Freak » Thu Jan 9, 2020 3:21 pm

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Pacers_Freak wrote:Lot of medical professionals in this thread.


Haven’t seen a single comment that would lend itself forwards or against that. Just, it seems, people expressing optimism or caution. Why shouldn’t they? :dontknow:

If you want medical professionals in a thread, you should’ve seen the post PG injury threads, or anything involving Brandon Ingram or Chris Bosh on the forums post DVT. :lol:


My point was we really have no idea what he is doing in practice, rehab, etc. But trying to make assessments on if he's ready or not. We have no clue. Like I can watch a game and say this guy should play more, this guy should take less shots, this guy sucks on defense, etc. I may be really damn wrong but at least it is something I'm seeing with my own eyes.

I'm all for people expressing opinions and all. Didn't mean to come across that way. Just not sure what these opinions are being based on. He's got about 20 days left. That's close to the length of training camp. I'm excited that he's coming back and trust that he, the Pacers staff, and doctors are being responsible with their plan.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

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Pacers_Freak wrote:Lot of medical professionals in this thread.


Haven’t seen a single comment that would lend itself forwards or against that. Just, it seems, people expressing optimism or caution. Why shouldn’t they? :dontknow:

If you want medical professionals in a thread, you should’ve seen the post PG injury threads, or anything involving Brandon Ingram or Chris Bosh on the forums post DVT. :lol:


My point was we really have no idea what he is doing in practice, rehab, etc. But trying to make assessments on if he's ready or not. We have no clue. Like I can watch a game and say this guy should play more, this guy should take less shots, this guy sucks on defense, etc. I may be really damn wrong but at least it is something I'm seeing with my own eyes.

I'm all for people expressing opinions and all. Didn't mean to come across that way. Just not sure what these opinions are being based on. He's got about 20 days left. That's close to the length of training camp. I'm excited that he's coming back and trust that he, the Pacers staff, and doctors are being responsible with their plan.


I get it, but no one tried diagnosing him, just talking through their “fears” and “hopes”. I mean, we’re not coaches, and we don’t see practices, but we ALL LOVE to talk on this forum as if we were. Kind of the point, right?
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#18 » by Pacers_Freak » Thu Jan 9, 2020 3:38 pm

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Haven’t seen a single comment that would lend itself forwards or against that. Just, it seems, people expressing optimism or caution. Why shouldn’t they? :dontknow:

If you want medical professionals in a thread, you should’ve seen the post PG injury threads, or anything involving Brandon Ingram or Chris Bosh on the forums post DVT. :lol:


My point was we really have no idea what he is doing in practice, rehab, etc. But trying to make assessments on if he's ready or not. We have no clue. Like I can watch a game and say this guy should play more, this guy should take less shots, this guy sucks on defense, etc. I may be really damn wrong but at least it is something I'm seeing with my own eyes.

I'm all for people expressing opinions and all. Didn't mean to come across that way. Just not sure what these opinions are being based on. He's got about 20 days left. That's close to the length of training camp. I'm excited that he's coming back and trust that he, the Pacers staff, and doctors are being responsible with their plan.


I get it, but no one tried diagnosing him, just talking through their “fears” and “hopes”. I mean, we’re not coaches, and we don’t see practices, but we ALL LOVE to talk on this forum as if we were. Kind of the point, right?


Well I should be a coach. Just haven't gotten the chance yet! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

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My point was we really have no idea what he is doing in practice, rehab, etc. But trying to make assessments on if he's ready or not. We have no clue. Like I can watch a game and say this guy should play more, this guy should take less shots, this guy sucks on defense, etc. I may be really damn wrong but at least it is something I'm seeing with my own eyes.

I'm all for people expressing opinions and all. Didn't mean to come across that way. Just not sure what these opinions are being based on. He's got about 20 days left. That's close to the length of training camp. I'm excited that he's coming back and trust that he, the Pacers staff, and doctors are being responsible with their plan.


I get it, but no one tried diagnosing him, just talking through their “fears” and “hopes”. I mean, we’re not coaches, and we don’t see practices, but we ALL LOVE to talk on this forum as if we were. Kind of the point, right?


Well I should be a coach. Just haven't gotten the chance yet! :lol: :lol:


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Re: Shams: Oladipo to return January 29! 

Post#20 » by Pacersike » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:59 pm

Pacers_Freak wrote:
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Pacers_Freak wrote:
My point was we really have no idea what he is doing in practice, rehab, etc. But trying to make assessments on if he's ready or not. We have no clue. Like I can watch a game and say this guy should play more, this guy should take less shots, this guy sucks on defense, etc. I may be really damn wrong but at least it is something I'm seeing with my own eyes.

I'm all for people expressing opinions and all. Didn't mean to come across that way. Just not sure what these opinions are being based on. He's got about 20 days left. That's close to the length of training camp. I'm excited that he's coming back and trust that he, the Pacers staff, and doctors are being responsible with their plan.


I get it, but no one tried diagnosing him, just talking through their “fears” and “hopes”. I mean, we’re not coaches, and we don’t see practices, but we ALL LOVE to talk on this forum as if we were. Kind of the point, right?


Well I should be a coach. Just haven't gotten the chance yet! :lol: :lol:

You should. And Scoot too. And a couple of others too.

Pacers have one of the smallest coaching teams in the league. 4 more assistant coaches and we are tied with the Raptors, one of the bigger coaching teams. It doesn't make much of a difference but any tiny difference is big enough not to stay so much behind others.

Lakers 6, Bucks 7, Raptors 7, Clippers 8 assistant coaches and those were the first 4 I searched. Pacers only 3 assistant coaches.

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