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Who Should Be The Next Coach?

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#161 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:47 pm

I had missed this from September 13.

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#163 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:53 am



Budenholzer coaching tree?!?! Excuse me!!! He so (briefly) “FORMER PACER” Darvin Ham!!! :lol:
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#164 » by OnFire » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:01 am

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Budenholzer coaching tree?!?! Excuse me!!! He so (briefly) “FORMER PACER” Darvin Ham!!! :lol:


Very briefly, I suppose.

Vaguely remember when he played for us. :roll:
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#165 » by Wizop » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:30 pm

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Budenholzer coaching tree?!?! Excuse me!!! He so (briefly) “FORMER PACER” Darvin Ham!!!


Very briefly, I suppose.

Vaguely remember when he played for us. :roll:
I remember Ham as a rebounder. Wasn't he around the time we couldn't afford to keep Roundfield?

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#166 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:28 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:
Budenholzer coaching tree?!?! Excuse me!!! He so (briefly) “FORMER PACER” Darvin Ham!!!


Very briefly, I suppose.

Vaguely remember when he played for us. :roll:
I remember Ham as a rebounder. Wasn't he around the time we couldn't afford to keep Roundfield?

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He played one game for us in the early to kid 90’s. We traded Jerome Allen for him. Classic 90’s SG that can’t shoot.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#167 » by Wizop » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:12 pm

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Wizop wrote:
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Very briefly, I suppose.

Vaguely remember when he played for us. :roll:
I remember Ham as a rebounder. Wasn't he around the time we couldn't afford to keep Roundfield?

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He played one game for us in the early to kid 90’s. We traded Jerome Allen for him. Classic 90’s SG that can’t shoot.
Maybe I'm thinking about another player. Could be a senior moment.

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#168 » by Wizop » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:48 pm

Rivers out so his assistants are in play.

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#169 » by pacers33granger » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:13 pm

Wizop wrote:Rivers out so his assistants are in play.

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I know Cassell has been getting mentions some places. I'd be hesitant to pick off the "Rivers coaching tree." When the head of it is a mediocre to bad coach, it doesn't say much about the rest.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#170 » by Scoot McGroot » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:26 pm

Wizop wrote:Rivers out so his assistants are in play.

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I would imagine Lue gets heavy consideration for the job there.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#171 » by Wizop » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:06 pm

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#172 » by Topofthekey » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:50 am

I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"

Obviously it'll depend on what their definition of a "players coach" is

I hope it's not them wanting someone who will just tolerate players showing up late for practise
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#173 » by Wizop » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:37 pm

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Topofthekey wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"


I think you need to read this together with Nate saying that a mentor of his taught him to ignore the players personal concerns. I'm repeating that from memory as a quick look at recent articles in the Star didn't come up with his exact words, but I hope you get the point.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#174 » by Topofthekey » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:28 pm

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Topofthekey wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"


I think you need to read this together with Nate saying that a mentor of his taught him to ignore the players personal concerns. I'm repeating that from memory as a quick look at recent articles in the Star didn't come up with his exact words, but I hope you get the point.

Well, that'll depend on what those personal concerns are, won't it

I hope it's not something like being concerned that their girlfriends are not allowed to fly together with the team, or something diva like that

Of course, none of them strike me as a diva, so hopefully it's nothing like that
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#175 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:28 pm

Topofthekey wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"

Obviously it'll depend on what their definition of a "players coach" is

I hope it's not them wanting someone who will just tolerate players showing up late for practise



That hasn’t appeared to be any sort of a Hope foe the players. They want someone that will coach with them, not just drop down from their office for practice and game and then run back to The office and leave them be, is what it most appears. I think they want someone who will talk with them, understand them, and help manage them, and guide them how to help manage themselves.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#176 » by Topofthekey » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:31 pm

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Topofthekey wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"

Obviously it'll depend on what their definition of a "players coach" is

I hope it's not them wanting someone who will just tolerate players showing up late for practise



That hasn’t appeared to be any sort of a Hope foe the players. They want someone that will coach with them, not just drop down from their office for practice and game and then run back to The office and leave them be, is what it most appears. I think they want someone who will talk with them, understand them, and help manage them, and guide them how to help manage themselves.

I hope this is the case. I feel this is the case, too

Myles' haphazard development is pretty much Exhibit A, that his coach hasn't really provided him with the guidance thay he needs

I'd be disappointed if I were him
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#177 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:43 pm

Topofthekey wrote:
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Topofthekey wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about Pacers players expressing their preference for a "player's coach"

Obviously it'll depend on what their definition of a "players coach" is

I hope it's not them wanting someone who will just tolerate players showing up late for practise



That hasn’t appeared to be any sort of a Hope foe the players. They want someone that will coach with them, not just drop down from their office for practice and game and then run back to The office and leave them be, is what it most appears. I think they want someone who will talk with them, understand them, and help manage them, and guide them how to help manage themselves.

I hope this is the case. I feel this is the case, too

Myles' haphazard development is pretty much Exhibit A, that his coach hasn't really provided him with the guidance thay he needs

I'd be disappointed if I were him



Agreed. In fairness to Nate, it probably did suit Vic and Sabonis in terms of what they needed for development. They’re athletic guys that are smart players and able to figure stuff out. But the rest needed more guidance. And hopefully, you get a coach that can do both, just like you hope you can get a coach that can adjust his coaching and coach some different styles.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#178 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:24 am

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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#179 » by Jake0890 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:42 am

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Wow, the Sixers coaching search changed on a dime. Have to think Philly is excited to get Doc instead of Lue now.
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Re: Who Should Be The Next Coach? 

Post#180 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:20 am

What about Dave Joerger? He did a pretty good job in Memphis and Sacramento. He coaches tough defense and fast paced offense.

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