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Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:54 am
by basketballwacko2
Texas Chuck wrote:Uh I did not have this. Curious to see what else Indy gets here. Because this feels gross without something else significant for Indy.
So Chuck now with LeVert out 8 weeks before he can even pick up a basketball and workout how does this feel for Indiana? Still gross?
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:10 pm
by Tom White
Topofthekey wrote:I still am a bit disappointed at the returns they got for Vic, but if you look at the big picture, this is fine
If you want to look at it from a different view, you could consider that the team got LeVert, Sabonis, 2 2nd round picks and 2.6M for Paul George.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:47 pm
by Wizop
I got an alert on my phone that LeVert was doing a presser and I caught most of it. Here's a link to where I think it will replay but it isn't up as I write this.
https://www.nba.com/pacers/news/pacers-acquire-caris-levert
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:00 am
by Scoot McGroot
We ended up receiving the least favorable 2023 2nd round pick amongst Houston, Dallas, and Miami as well as the less favorable 2024 2nd round picks of Utah and Cleveland in this deal. So, neither one projects super awesome. But, they're there.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:04 am
by Scoot McGroot
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Whoa. J.Michael went all out against Vic and/or his people on Twitter after Vic’s comments last night.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:06 am
by Scoot McGroot
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:53 am
by Scoot McGroot
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:58 am
by Topofthekey
Sounds like Pacers' own version of the Uncle Dennis situation
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:35 am
by pacers33granger
I guess Vic's people really are that toxic. Hopefully it's just Vic letting them deal with things rather than being involved. It seemed like he was ok here, but obviously distant. I wouldn't expect something like that from him, though those postgame comments were seemingly out of character. At least he's better at having a chip on his shoulder about it all than PG has been.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:31 pm
by Tom White
Topofthekey wrote:Sounds like Pacers' own version of the Uncle Dennis situation
Uncle Dennis? Who was (or is) that?
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:07 pm
by Topofthekey
Tom White wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Sounds like Pacers' own version of the Uncle Dennis situation
Uncle Dennis? Who was (or is) that?
Kawhi's uncle, who (reportedly) gave bad advice to Kawhi and was responsible for creating the messy situation between Kawhi and the Spurs
https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/who-is-kawhi-leonards-uncle-dennis/amp/
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:16 pm
by Tom White
Ah, OK. I do remember something about that now. Thanks.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:38 am
by Scoot McGroot
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30981753/sources-victor-oladipo-turned-2-year-452-million-extension-houston-rocketsOladipo turned down a 2 year, $45.2m extension offer from Houston. Which, dang. We traded him after he turned down our 4/$113m extension, so Houston didn't even offer him the maximum 2 year extension that they could (though Woj is saying this is the maximum, it doesn't appear to be true). His maximum 2 year extension offer should be $52.4m, so they only offered him ~85% of what they could.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:58 am
by Scoot McGroot
Scoot McGroot wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30981753/sources-victor-oladipo-turned-2-year-452-million-extension-houston-rockets
Oladipo turned down a 2 year, $45.2m extension offer from Houston. Which, dang. We traded him after he turned down our 4/$113m extension, so Houston didn't even offer him the maximum 2 year extension that they could (though Woj is saying this is the maximum, it doesn't appear to be true). His maximum 2 year extension offer should be $52.4m, so they only offered him ~85% of what they could.
Ah. Figured it out. A player cannot receive an extension 6 months after being dealt, except for an extension bound by the "extend and trade", which limits the player to only a 5% raise over the last year of the current deal he's playing on, and only 5% yearly raises, as opposed to a normal extension, which would allow a 20% raise over the final year, and 8% raises.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 2:07 am
by Pacers Forever
Scoot McGroot wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30981753/sources-victor-oladipo-turned-2-year-452-million-extension-houston-rockets
Oladipo turned down a 2 year, $45.2m extension offer from Houston. Which, dang. We traded him after he turned down our 4/$113m extension, so Houston didn't even offer him the maximum 2 year extension that they could (though Woj is saying this is the maximum, it doesn't appear to be true). His maximum 2 year extension offer should be $52.4m, so they only offered him ~85% of what they could.
He doesn't want to be there anyway. He wants to be on a superstar laden team such as Lakers, Nets, or Heat and win a quick championship. Maybe big market Knicks if he plans to continue his NBA paycheck. He may be looking to get out and pursue other interests. I'm guessing the Heat due to location.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 4:23 pm
by Wizop
Pacers Forever wrote:He wants to be on a superstar laden team such as Lakers, Nets, or Heat and win a quick championship. Maybe big market Knicks if he plans to continue his NBA paycheck. He may be looking to get out and pursue other interests. I'm guessing the Heat due to location.
I'm not so sure. I think he wants to be THE Superstar in a big market where he can monetize both his play and his music.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 5:02 pm
by Topofthekey
Wizop wrote:Pacers Forever wrote:He wants to be on a superstar laden team such as Lakers, Nets, or Heat and win a quick championship. Maybe big market Knicks if he plans to continue his NBA paycheck. He may be looking to get out and pursue other interests. I'm guessing the Heat due to location.
I'm not so sure. I think he wants to be THE Superstar in a big market where he can monetize both his play and his music.
So he's going to the Knicks then
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Mon Mar 1, 2021 7:12 pm
by Scoot McGroot
Topofthekey wrote:Wizop wrote:Pacers Forever wrote:He wants to be on a superstar laden team such as Lakers, Nets, or Heat and win a quick championship. Maybe big market Knicks if he plans to continue his NBA paycheck. He may be looking to get out and pursue other interests. I'm guessing the Heat due to location.
I'm not so sure. I think he wants to be THE Superstar in a big market where he can monetize both his play and his music.
So he's going to the Knicks then
Maybe. The Knicks will have room for close to 2 maximum salary players in free agency, and Oladipo may be the only one on the market (debatable), if Jrue and Kawhi stay where they're at. Miami obviously is a possible spot. Houston maybe as the incumbent. If an LA team had a max salary slot, we could pencil Vic in safely there, I'm sure.
Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:43 pm
by Scoot McGroot
I truly hate to see this. I know, burned bridges and all, but never want to see this keep up.
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Re: Shams: Oladipo to Houston for Levert in Harden trade (Deal Complete)
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:04 pm
by Topofthekey
Scoot McGroot wrote:I truly hate to see this. I know, burned bridges and all, but never want to see this keep up.
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He really should have just taken that extension offered by Pacers and then just focus on his rehab, instead of listening to people around him and betting on himself and trying to make a what now looks like a premature comeback
Pacers sort of dodged a bullet there