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Post#101 » by Boneman2 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:43 am

Garuba (6'8", 7'3" wingspan, 230 lbs, 19yo) is growing on me. Some say he is a pf/c others say he can transition to wing eventually. Whatever the case may be, Usman is supposedly a defensive mastermind at the age of 19 (according to the article below).




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Post#102 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:46 am

Boneman2 wrote:Garuba (6'8", 7'3" wingspan, 230 lbs, 19yo) is growing on me. Some say he is a pf/c others say he can transition to wing eventually. Whatever the case may be, Usman is supposedly a defensive mastermind at the age of 19 (according to the article below).




https://www.thestrick.land/strick/2021-nba-draft-profile-usman-garuba


I can't see how Garuba transitions to the wing. PF, sure, but he isn't skilled enough on offense to be a wing, imo.

Defensive mastermind, though, isn't inaccurate. It may be a bit of a hyperbole but he is indeed a very, very good defender.
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Post#103 » by Moooose » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:29 am

^ Hard to picture Garuba developing into a wing. I think a small ball center is more fitting.
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Post#104 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:59 am

Moooose wrote:^ Hard to picture Garuba developing into a wing. I think a small ball center is more fitting.


Yep. He can defend wings, though. He'd have no issues defending people on the perimeter, imo. He is a multi-positional defender.
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Post#105 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:00 pm

The more I check other PG prospects, the lower I get on Davion Mitchell. I also like McBride better than him.
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Post#106 » by Wizop » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:39 pm

Nuntius wrote:The more I check other PG prospects, the lower I get on Davion Mitchell. I also like McBride better than him.
There are better scorers but Mitchell could play immediately when the situation requires someone who can defend speed. We've had a problem with that although Sumner and Stanley have speed.

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Post#107 » by Wizop » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:41 pm

Moooose wrote:^ Hard to picture Garuba developing into a wing. I think a small ball center is more fitting.
If we were to trade down to get two picks and Garuba was there, he'd be a strong option to replace Sampson.

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Post#108 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:45 pm

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Nuntius wrote:The more I check other PG prospects, the lower I get on Davion Mitchell. I also like McBride better than him.
There are better scorers but Mitchell could play immediately when the situation requires someone who can defend speed. We've had a problem with that although Sumner and Stanley have speed.

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It's not just about scoring, though. McBride, Springer and Dosunmu seem to be equally capable defenders (if not more capable) and they are all bigger and/or longer than him.
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Post#109 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:56 pm

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Post#110 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:26 pm

Moooose wrote:
Nuntius wrote:And since I talked about Sandro Mamukelashvili, allow me to post some videos of him:

Still, though, he is projected as a late second rounder and if he's there at #54, I'd 100% take him.


Glad that somebody else has noticed Mamukelashvili. I sure do hope the Pacers can get him in the 2nd round.

I honestly think he is being undervalued in the mock drafts too much. As I've posted before, this kid can learn from Domas. Their skillsets aren't too far apart.


John Hollinger has Sandro at 70 on his big board, but lumped into the “2 way guys” category.

70. Sandro Mamukelashvili, PF, Seton Hall, Senior
Another interesting guy because of an unusual skill set, Mamukelashvili is 6-foot-11 but likes to handle the ball and create for others. Chance are, he isn’t stout enough physically to defend the five, and he hasn’t quite shown enough floor-spacing ability to make a respectable case as a four. If one of those things changes, however, he could be a player.
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Post#111 » by Pacers Forever » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:52 pm

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All later in the draft except maybe Sharife Cooper ? The less amount of prospects they bring in the #10-15 range the more you wonder if they are trading back, trading for an established player, or not really worried about working out certain players.

Wagner
Kispert
Garuba
Sengun
Both Johnsons
Mitchell
Duarte
Giddey

A few names yet to work out in Indy who might fall to #13 or Pacers might be interested in.

Building for the future, going all in now, best player available, a certain position, defense, or offense we don’t know what they want. That’s the secretive part of the draft with having a new coach we don’t know yet what Carlisle truly thinks of his roster, or what direction Carlisle thinks or wants the roster to head towards. I get the feeling Pritchard having Carlisle as coach the draft and upcoming picks will be more of a collaboration process.
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Post#112 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:30 pm

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Sharife Cooper is projected to go late 1st to early 2nd. He is an interesting PG prospect that can pass the ball really well and score a bit. He is undersized, though.

The other ones are on the bubble of being drafted.
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Post#113 » by Wizop » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:40 pm

Nuntius wrote:The other ones are on the bubble of being drafted.


said another way, they are candidates for our pick 60. were it football, that'd be Mr Irrelevant.
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Post#114 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:52 pm

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Nuntius wrote:The other ones are on the bubble of being drafted.


said another way, they are candidates for our pick 60. were it football, that'd be Mr Irrelevant.


Yeah, that would be a good way to put it.
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Post#115 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:54 pm

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All later in the draft except maybe Sharife Cooper ? The less amount of prospects they bring in the #10-15 range the more you wonder if they are trading back, trading for an established player, or not really worried about working out certain players.

Wagner
Kispert
Garuba
Sengun
Both Johnsons
Mitchell
Duarte
Giddey

A few names yet to work out in Indy who might fall to #13 or Pacers might be interested in.

Building for the future, going all in now, best player available, a certain position, defense, or offense we don’t know what they want. That’s the secretive part of the draft with having a new coach we don’t know yet what Carlisle truly thinks of his roster, or what direction Carlisle thinks or wants the roster to head towards. I get the feeling Pritchard having Carlisle as coach the draft and upcoming picks will be more of a collaboration process.


I wouldn’t read too much into it yet, or even at draft day. Some of those guys aren’t able to workout due to overseas obligations. Others are making the rounds and their agents will want them to work out only against certain people, or without others. We’re also still 2 weeks out from the draft, and the Pacers (and all other teams) have also been known to have a guy in for a secret workout, or will have gathered enough information at the combine or private workouts to feel comfortable.
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Post#116 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:07 pm

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All later in the draft except maybe Sharife Cooper ? The less amount of prospects they bring in the #10-15 range the more you wonder if they are trading back, trading for an established player, or not really worried about working out certain players.

Wagner
Kispert
Garuba
Sengun
Both Johnsons
Mitchell
Duarte
Giddey

A few names yet to work out in Indy who might fall to #13 or Pacers might be interested in.

Building for the future, going all in now, best player available, a certain position, defense, or offense we don’t know what they want. That’s the secretive part of the draft with having a new coach we don’t know yet what Carlisle truly thinks of his roster, or what direction Carlisle thinks or wants the roster to head towards. I get the feeling Pritchard having Carlisle as coach the draft and upcoming picks will be more of a collaboration process.


I wouldn’t read too much into it yet, or even at draft day. Some of those guys aren’t able to workout due to overseas obligations.


That's true. Giddey is currently playing for Australia, Sengun played for Turkey recently and Wagner/Garuba could be playing for Germany/Spain in the upcoming Olympics (no idea if they actually are, though, just that they could).
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Post#117 » by Wizop » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:46 pm

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Post#118 » by Tom White » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:17 pm

Wizop wrote:Doesn't fit our play immediately statements but I like Kai

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/15/22576835/meet-the-most-interesting-sleeper-in-the-2021-nba-draft


I've become a fan of his as well. I think it might be fun to see him and Turner paired on the floor.
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Post#119 » by Wizop » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:42 pm

Chad Ford has us taking Kispert at 13 with Mitchell a possibility if he's not taken at 7. He has Kessler Edwards at 54 and I like that. At 60 he has Livers which is okay but I'd prefer a stash.
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Post#120 » by Tom White » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:01 pm

Wizop wrote:Chad Ford has us taking Kispert at 13 with Mitchell a possibility


I really hope not. Not sure exactly what it is, but I just don't like that.

Kessler is interesting. It appears he can certainly shoot the ball, and rebounded well. But again, you can't get much insight about his defense from the stats available. At 54? I'm sure we could do much worse than him.

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