Topofthekey wrote: Scoot McGroot wrote:
Topofthekey wrote:I mean, if they let both Warren and Lamb walk, they'll be under the salary cap, so if they wanted someone for $7m they can probably just outright sign him without using a TPE
No they won’t. The MLE and BAE count against the cap, so they would still be over the cap. And that’s only if they decline the option on Goga (which they have to decide in October before the season starts) for next season that it’s even close.
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Pacers will have $105m in guaranteed salary in '23. The salary cap is going to be at $119m, so it does look like they have about $14m in cap space available if Warren and Lamb walked
They can even pick up the options of Goga and Brissett, and they'd still have about $8m left in cap space
So it does look like they can simply sign someone at $7m to replace Warren if they wanted to, without needing a TPE
For the summer of 2022, You would have to renounce the rights to Warren, Lamb, Sumner, and Martin, and would have to give away our 1st round pick next year. Add in the cap holds for at least a 1st round pick, and the minimum roster charges (each player you have less than 13 gets a minimum roster charge added to your cap), and in this case, you’re likely at around $9m in cap space, or once the cap charge for the MLE is added on, you’re over the cap. So, likely still operating as an over the cap team.
So, if you say they could get to $8m under the cap, so they don’t need the $7.4m TPE, you’d be renouncing the use of the MLE (around $10m), so you’d be giving up a $7.4m TPE and the $10m MLE, all to use around $8m under the cap (realistically, $5m after accounting for a 1st rounders cap hold). So, the ability to sign someone for $5m with cap space, and then a $5m room exception? Or, keep the bird rights to Warren, use a $7.4m TPE, AND use the full MLE to sign someone for up to $10m?
For the summer of 2023, yeah, you could be under the cap if you don’t re-sign Warren, and renounce guys like Brogdon and Turner. But the TPE would be expired by then anyway.
To be under the cap and make it worthwhile, you absolutely have to get well under the cap to do so.