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Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely

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Re: Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely 

Post#21 » by Wizop » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:45 pm

worth noting that the Colts Fisher could play Sunday after an 8 month achilles recovery but

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Re: Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely 

Post#22 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:55 pm

Wizop wrote:worth noting that the Colts Fisher could play Sunday after an 8 month achilles recovery but

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Agness is conflating two very different things.

The Pacers applied for a disabled player exception. This would allow Indy to sign or trade for a player with only 1 year under contract remaining for up to half of what Sumner makes this year. This would have limited benefit because it is less than what a vet minimum contract would allow. However, Sumner would still be on the roster, and still count against the 15 player limit on the active (non 2-way) roster.

What Scott is describing is a different thing altogether, a “Hardship Exception”. A team can apply for this when they have had 4 players concurrently miss 3* or more games, while also being expected to miss at least 2 or more weeks. They cannot apply for this before 5 games in the regular season have been played, by nature of the rule. This is what would allow a team to sign a 16th, or extra, player.

But these are two entirely different things, and it appears that Scott confused the two.

*Edit - requires missing 3 or more games, while also being expected to miss 2 or more weeks going forward, not 5 games.
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Re: Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely 

Post#23 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:56 pm

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Wizop wrote:worth noting that the Colts Fisher could play Sunday after an 8 month achilles recovery but

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Agness is conflating two very different things.

The Pacers applied for a disabled player exception. This would allow Indy to sign or trade for a player with only 1 year under contract remaining for up to half of what Sumner makes this year. This would have limited benefit because it is less than what a vet minimum contract would allow. However, Sumner would still be on the roster, and still count against the 15 player limit on the active (non 2-way) roster.

What Scott is describing is a different thing altogether, a “Hardship Exception”. A team can apply for this when they have had 4 players concurrently miss 5 or more games. They cannot apply for this before 5 games in the regular season have been played, by nature of the rule. This is what would allow a team to sign a 16th, or extra, player.

But these are two entirely different things, and it appears that Scott confused the two.


Or, rather, he just kind of didn’t describe it well, due to the Twitter character limit.
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Re: Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely 

Post#24 » by Wizop » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:32 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Or, rather, he just kind of didn’t describe it well, due to the Twitter character limit.


Caitlin has a tweet that clarifies.

and Scott sent out an email with better information.
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Re: Official: Sumner Tears Achilles, Out Indefinitely 

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