8305 wrote:I agree this selling low on Turner. Or, lower than I would have hoped. But, one way or another he needs to be moved before the deadline IMO. Wait past the deadline and he becomes an expiring contract. At that point his value sinks even lower while Jackson and Goga continue to languish on the bench. In the remaining games of a season going nowhere it would be a remarkable waste if those two don’t get significant run.
When I look around the league Turner squeaks into a top 10. No way is he a top 5. Many teams simply don’t value the position and his contract circumstances depreciate his value. Truth be told he should have been traded a couple years ago. That’s when his value peaked.
He's a lock to be in the top 10. I don't think one can name 10 centers who are clearly better than him
Whether he squeaks into the top 5 or not depends on what one thinks of Gobert, Ayton, Adebayo, AD, and KAT
Gobert and Adebayo can't shoot. AD is always injured. KAT doesn't play defense. Ayton is about to be overpaid. Etc
It's strange to argue that teams don't value centers, yet we all know that Ayton is about to be maxed
Two of the top 4 MVP candidates currently are centers (Jokic and Embiid). Giannis is neither a wing nor a guard. Durant rounds out the top 4 and he's playing PF these days. There are literally no guards or wings near the top of the MVP race. Closest ones are Derozan and Curry, at number 5 and 6. Source: Kia MVP ladder on the NBA website
All this "centers have low value" talk is just negative self talk. A good player will have value, regardless of the position he plays. Not many people will take Tatum over Jokic despite the positions they play
People on the TB tend to say center is a position teams can get by with a role player
Well, Warriors is getting by with Wiggins at SF. Suns, Mikal Bridges. Jazz, Royce O'Neal. Nuggets, Will Barton. Grizzlies, I don't even know who
Sounds like a lot of good teams are getting by with a good role player at SF
As for trading Turner, I do agree that the ideal outcome is to trade him before he becomes expiring. But the return has to be worthwhile. And they can always try extending him this off-season (I think. Correct me if I'm wrong)
I also do agree that trading Turner will potentially open up minutes for Goga and Jackson, but I think their lack of playing time has got more to do with Carlisle's approach, which seems to favour guards