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Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:25 pm
by Scoot McGroot
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Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:27 pm
by Wizop
no surprise although the length was and maybe still be TBD.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm
by Scoot McGroot
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Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:30 pm
by Scoot McGroot
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Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:56 pm
by boomershadow
Not unexpected but still pleasant news

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:01 pm
by Scoot McGroot
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Tony East reporting no options on the deal. Straight 4 years.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:06 pm
by Scoot McGroot
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Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:23 pm
by Wizop
Here's another X saying no options.

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Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:58 pm
by Tom White
Holy crap! An average of about $47M per year? How will he feed his family?

I still don't understand how we got to the point of salaries this high. It just baffles me.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:06 pm
by Wizop
Tom White wrote:Holy crap! An average of about $47M per year? How will he feed his family?

I still don't understand how we got to the point of salaries this high. It just baffles me.


If salaries were lower, wouldn't you be baffled by the profits of the owners? We got salaries this high because the broadcast revenues have soared. entertainers who put butts in seats (literally or virtually) get paid.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:34 pm
by Tom White
Wizop wrote:
If salaries were lower, wouldn't you be baffled by the profits of the owners?


Ha! Yes, I likely would be.

We got salaries this high because the broadcast revenues have soared. entertainers who put butts in seats (literally or virtually) get paid.


See, that is the other part I've been thinking will fall apart. The Regional Sports Network model doesn't seem to be doing well, in particular Bally, but also some others. Cable subscription numbers are way down, and more of the "live TV" streaming services have either dropped RSNs or put them on increasingly more expensive tiers that fewer people will subscribe to. I know some of the other streaming services have bid for slices of the pie, but not for large slices. In particular, I don't see any of them trying to replicate the number of games for an individual team (such as the Pacers) covered by the RSNs they are replacing. I have to wonder about the sustainability of it.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:36 pm
by jowglenn
Good to hear.

Can I get a mea culpa from basketballwacko please? As I recall you hated the Siakam deal since he wouldn't really improve the team that much and you were certain he would then leave in free agency. I said that if that happened I'd gladly admit it was in fact a bad trade.

But since we made the Eastern Conference Finals and he immediately re-signed, how about admitting you were wrong?

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:40 pm
by Tom White
jowglenn wrote:Can I get a mea culpa from basketballwacko please?


The one thing I can appreciate about basketballwacko is he makes me look like a "sunshiner"!

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:07 pm
by Wizop
Tom White wrote:See, that is the other part I've been thinking will fall apart. The Regional Sports Network model doesn't seem to be doing well, in particular Bally, but also some others.


if all of the regional networks were to fail, it would be really good for the Pacers. the huge fees from mega-market local broadcasts are what allow their teams to pay luxury tax from profits.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:50 pm
by Scoot McGroot

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:31 pm
by JMaster5K
!!!! :D :D :D !!!!

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:54 pm
by Pacers Forever
Scoot McGroot wrote:https://www.capsheets.com/indiana-pacers-cap-sheet/


This makes it appear that there’ll be enough to sign Obi and very little else. Maybe enough for draft picks? Nothing left for roster spots 14 and 15 ??

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:01 pm
by Wizop
Pacers Forever wrote:This makes it appear that there’ll be enough to sign Obi and very little else. Maybe enough for draft picks? Nothing left for roster spots 14 and 15 ??


depends what you mean by left. there are minimum contracts and various exemptions that can be used to fill out the roster so there is money left, but if you mean left below the tax line, yes it's tight.

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:43 pm
by Scoot McGroot
Pacers Forever wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:https://www.capsheets.com/indiana-pacers-cap-sheet/


This makes it appear that there’ll be enough to sign Obi and very little else. Maybe enough for draft picks? Nothing left for roster spots 14 and 15 ??


That has Stix on the books, but yes. That’s how the cap is set up. I would imagine pick 36 takes a main roster spot, Obi is potentially re-signed to an MLE type amount and then a vet minimum or two and we’re just under the tax. If Jalen opts out, we essentially have a touch under $20m for Obi, #36, and 1-2 other main roster spots. There’s not much to fill. And probably just the right amount to fill it?

Re: Woj: Siakam agrees to 4 year max contract

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:57 pm
by Wizop
Scoot McGroot wrote:Obi is potentially re-signed to an MLE type amount


if his agents are comfortable that there aren't going to be significantly higher offers elsewhere and we want him back (I do), an agreement in principle could be leaked soon.