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Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:55 pm
by GermanFan120
Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:00 pm
by JMaster5K
GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

Welcome !! Hope you enjoy it here!

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:37 pm
by Pacers Forever
GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

Welcome aboard. Our number of posters are few but it’s a peaceful group.
As far as favorite players I’d say Pascal Siakam is my favorite, I root for Jarace Walker to breakout into a beast, and hope our young players like Mathurin, Sheppard, and Furphy all develop more sooner than later.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:53 pm
by GermanFan120
Random question - As a jersey collector, does anyone know where I could possibly find a Reggie jersey?

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:59 pm
by basketballwacko2
GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

You're ditching the Mavs after the Luka trade? Well I would have liked to see them get a bit more for him, but you have to consider that the team just didn't want to give him that SuperMax contract. Getting AD and Christie with the 2029 #1 is a bit light, they should have gotten the 2031 #1 too.
Question for you on the Mavs since it was your former team, what's gonna happen with Kyrie Irving? He's 33 years old just had a torn ACL and has his option year coming up.
Do you think he will opt in or leave? My guess is he opts in to the $44 million he's got coming or maybe if given the chance for a 1+1 for some $34 million a year that would help the team and give him another shot at redemption.
You are welcome to be a Pacer fan and post with us here. I tend to be the most cantankerous poster on this page and will call out hypocrisy when I see it.

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:04 pm
by basketballwacko2
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:08 pm
by GermanFan120
basketballwacko2 wrote:GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

You're ditching the Mavs after the Luka trade? Well I would have liked to see them get a bit more for him, but you have to consider that the team just didn't want to give him that SuperMax contract. Getting AD and Christie with the 2029 #1 is a bit light, they should have gotten the 2031 #1 too.
Question for you on the Mavs since it was your former team, what's gonna happen with Kyrie Irving? He's 33 years old just had a torn ACL and has his option year coming up.
Do you think he will opt in or leave? My guess is he opts in to the $44 million he's got coming or maybe if given the chance for a 1+1 for some $34 million a year that would help the team and give him another shot at redemption.
You are welcome to be a Pacer fan and post with us here. I tend to be the most cantankerous poster on this page and will call out hypocrisy when I see it.

To address your questions:
1. It's hard not to ditch the Mavs when traitors with their own interests are running the team. I will only pay attention to their success or failure when Nico is fired and the team is given to a better owner.
2. About Ky, my personal take is he will leave the Mavs because Ky's market is becoming a lot better despite his devastating ACL injury. I can easily see he joins his friends Lebron and Luka with a lesser contract to try to win another ring. The narrative couldn't be more obvious, Lakers and Adam Silver want Lebron to win another ring before his retirement. So they can have more talk about him over MJ. Also, I don't think Ky values money and loyalty that much. I mean why would he try to be a role model under a toxic organization like Mavs? He knows in his heart that Luka was handled dirty without any class.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:18 pm
by GermanFan120
A question to all the Pacers fan here: What kinda upgrade does the team need to address to truly become a contender over other good teams such as: OKC / Bos / NY / LAL / GSW / Cavs ?
Looking at the current roster, I cannot find anyone on the team prominent enough to be dealt or cut for upgrade.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:22 pm
by Wizop
GermanFan120 wrote:Random question - As a jersey collector, does anyone know where I could possibly find a Reggie jersey?

the Pacer shop will put any name or number on a jersey for you. but I don't know if they have the old color schemes.
try calling 317-917-2755
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:41 am
by boomershadow
Supposedly, Rick Carlisle has been using some of the lessons he learned while coaching Luca to try to empower Tyrese Haliburton to run the offense. Rese is the engine of the Pacers offense, and it is clear he has Rick's full confidence to go out and make plays for himself and others. It is really fun to watch on nights when the offense is really humming.
As far as what they need to get the advantage on the elite teams of the league, I think the main thing in my mind is Haliburton proving to everyone he can be that number one option in the playoffs that can go shot for shot with the Tatum and SGAs of the league. We have seen him be that guy in stretches. I wanna see it every night.
The Pacers have put shooting around him, good individual defenders, a secondary option who has won a championship, and plenty of depth. But they will only go as far as Haliburton can take them imo.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:04 am
by Scoot McGroot
GermanFan120 wrote:Random question - As a jersey collector, does anyone know where I could possibly find a Reggie jersey?

Welcome aboard mate!
As for Reggie, he doesn’t allow his jersey or image to be used by the NBA or NBPA, so there’s no new legit jerseys being made of him. For the most part, have to find the old ones on eBay, local sales sites, or buy some “imitations”. I think the nba/Pacers tool to make your own jersey with a name and number combination won’t allow Miller/31 pairings to be made.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:06 am
by Scoot McGroot
GermanFan120 wrote:A question to all the Pacers fan here: What kinda upgrade does the team need to address to truly become a contender over other good teams such as: OKC / Bos / NY / LAL / GSW / Cavs ?
Looking at the current roster, I cannot find anyone on the team prominent enough to be dealt or cut for upgrade.
Best I can see is a true consolidation type trade that upgrades the 3 with a true two way type player? Who that is, I don’t know, though. Basically. If you could somehow combine Mathurin and Nesmith and put it into Jarace’s body, you’d be perfect?

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:12 am
by Wizop
I'm starting to think they may just pay tax to keep Turner. I hope the draft gives us a center.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:08 am
by JMaster5K
Scoot McGroot wrote:GermanFan120 wrote:A question to all the Pacers fan here: What kinda upgrade does the team need to address to truly become a contender over other good teams such as: OKC / Bos / NY / LAL / GSW / Cavs ?
Looking at the current roster, I cannot find anyone on the team prominent enough to be dealt or cut for upgrade.
Best I can see is a true consolidation type trade that upgrades the 3 with a true two way type player? Who that is, I don’t know, though. Basically. If you could somehow combine Mathurin and Nesmith and put it into Jarace’s body, you’d be perfect?

I was having a hard time answering this question?....
I think an increase in the talent ceiling? Pacers have to play to or very close to their ceiling to beat some of the top teams. They've done it, but is that enough when they face another team playing close to their top talent level? (tbf this could come with growth and maturation of Walker's game, or Mathurin's game being remade to better fit the style of the team? Though, I still think we need a bigger wing as well.)
Thanks to the other answers! IMO, that increase in overall talent level needs to be an elite, all nba caliber wing defender. A guy who is still part of the offense,.. a threat to shoot, so they have to be covered, but who's real calling is defending the other teams best wing player. A guy you can put on Giannis, Tatum, or Brown & know that the other teams player is not going to be in position to win the game, or really reduces their contribution to winning the game? (Like a pre-injury, prime Jonathan Isaac, or a Cooper Flagg, to a slightly lesser degree Jones in NO, or Williams in CHI, or OG?) Probably at the SF, but able to guard up & down the line 2-4 for the Pacers?
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:17 pm
by Scoot McGroot
Wizop wrote:I'm starting to think they may just pay tax to keep Turner. I hope the draft gives us a center.
I couod see an argument for a bench PG that plays with pace and maybe McConnell on the move? Move Obi (or Nesmith), too, and there’s room to use part of the MLE?
I was talking with someone recently hat there’s apparently a belief of some agents around the league that it’d be worth it for some players to give up some money to play with Haliburton to reinvigorate their career (or rather, stats). We saw Tyrese help guys like Stix, Obi, Nesmith, and even Siakam to get hugger contracts than previously imagined. It might be worth it to keep the MLE available going forward and trying to use some of it on 1-2 guys every year who might be looking for “reclamation” with a PG rotation that will get them easy buckets?
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:35 pm
by JMaster5K
Scoot McGroot wrote:Wizop wrote:I'm starting to think they may just pay tax to keep Turner. I hope the draft gives us a center.
I couod see an argument for a bench PG that plays with pace and maybe McConnell on the move? Move Obi (or Nesmith), too, and there’s room to use part of the MLE?
I was talking with someone recently hat there’s apparently a belief of some agents around the league that it’d be worth it for some players to give up some money to play with Haliburton to reinvigorate their career (or rather, stats). We saw Tyrese help guys like Stix, Obi, Nesmith, and even Siakam to get hugger contracts than previously imagined. It might be worth it to keep the MLE available going forward and trying to use some of it on 1-2 guys every year who might be looking for “reclamation” with a PG rotation that will get them easy buckets?
'Well,.. you see Mr. Davis,... it's like this,... Mr Haliburton's seasons are
Valuable,... not just for himself, but for those that play with him as well,... We might let you join the club,.. but you would have to pay us the equivalent of the max contract for a season to revitalize your career'?..... o0

Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:51 pm
by basketballwacko2
GermanFan120 wrote:A question to all the Pacers fan here: What kinda upgrade does the team need to address to truly become a contender over other good teams such as: OKC / Bos / NY / LAL / GSW / Cavs ?
Looking at the current roster, I cannot find anyone on the team prominent enough to be dealt or cut for upgrade.
They need a big SF I like Nesmith a lot but at 6'6'' I'd like to have him at SG. With Haliburton at point and then Nembhard and Mathurin with TJ and Sheppard they are loaded at the Guards. So Nesmith would be a swing man.
I'd agree who would they trade to get that big SF? Probably no body. I'm expecting Obi Toppin to get dealt with our 2025 #1 for some teams 2026 #1, but there are only a couple of teams who can just absorb Toppin's contract and send money back. The point of it is to save money so they can resign Turner. Hope is Walker makes the jump in his 3rd season to be the backup at PF or maybe the big SF the team needs.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:01 am
by Grang33r
GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

Welcome to the board!
Im excited to see Mathurin make his playoffs debut. He was injured during our run last season.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:07 pm
by Wizop
Grang33r wrote:I'm excited to see Mathurin make his playoffs debut.
His performance in the playoffs is going to affect my trade list one way or another.
Re: Hi Everyone, I'm a Mavs Refugee
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:06 pm
by Gant
GermanFan120 wrote:Hi Everyone,
Basketball has been dead in my heart since the Luka trade, and I have been struggling to watch any games since then.
However, the way the Pacers play reminds me of the Dirk Nash Finley era so much, and it only makes sense that the Pacers have inherited the same elite offense coached by the former Mavs legendary coach Rick aka Jim Carrey.
I hope I am accepted here as a Mavs refugee. And I will be supporting the Pacers going forward.
Cheers.
P.S. I don't know why, as much as I adore Hali's talent, Mathurin is currently my fav Pacer.

Considering what the Mavs GM and ownership have done, switching allegiances is justified.
Also, fire Nico.