Isaiah Jackson 3 years 21 million

[jowglenn]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281365/Isaiah-Jackson-Pacers-Agree-To-Three-Year-$21M-Deal

Looks like the Pacers brass are pretty confident in his recovery from the Achilles tear. I'll be curious to see if it's all fully guaranteed or maybe a team option on year 3 or what.

Who starts? We've got Jackson, Huff, and Wiseman, any of whom could end up playing their way into the starting center spot. I kind of expect Huff will get the nod at first, but anything is possible.

[Wizop]

I've written this elsewhere, but I like Huff outside with Siakam inside, and Toppin outside with iJax inside.

[boomershadow]

I've written this elsewhere, but I like Huff outside with Siakam inside, and Toppin outside with iJax inside.

That is my thinking also.

[ButterflyRave]

Glad they got him signed - I am interested to see the details. I hope they were able to get him to agree to a front-loaded contract, with yearly decreases. It would really help out the future cap situation.

[Scoot McGroot]

Per Tony ease, no options, and some small injury protections for the team.

Per me and rough guessing, it looks like it could be set up as a 3 year deal that starts exactly at his qualifying offer salary and rises 8% per year.

[Wizop]

Per me and rough guessing, it looks like it could be set up as a 3 year deal that starts exactly at his qualifying offer salary and rises 8% per year.

Hollinger: Looks like first year of Isaiah Jackson's deal in Indy will be for exact amount of his qualifying offer. Curious how much of the final two years are guaranteed.

[Scoot McGroot]

Bet it’s descending. We’ve got the roster filled, and plenty of space to the tax. The extra $1m in space to use the MLE won’t matter as much as maybe saving $1m on the tax two seasons from now in the last year of his deal?

[Wizop]

Bet it’s descending. We’ve got the roster filled, and plenty of space to the tax. The extra $1m in space to use the MLE won’t matter as much as maybe saving $1m on the tax two seasons from now in the last year of his deal?

Can you start at the QO, descend, and total 21? Could be flat.

[Scoot McGroot]

Bet it’s descending. We’ve got the roster filled, and plenty of space to the tax. The extra $1m in space to use the MLE won’t matter as much as maybe saving $1m on the tax two seasons from now in the last year of his deal?

Can you start at the QO, descend, and total 21? Could be flat.

No. But you can basically just flip the years so that the 3rd year is at or just below the QO, because a 8% descent from a higher salary gives you a lower 3rd year, or a wider spread. Could be flat, but that presents less of a benefit in any given year. Set it to descend, when you know you have tax space this year and no way to reasonably spend it, and save that extra million for later.

[JMaster5K]

Bet it’s descending. We’ve got the roster filled, and plenty of space to the tax. The extra $1m in space to use the MLE won’t matter as much as maybe saving $1m on the tax two seasons from now in the last year of his deal?

Can you start at the QO, descend, and total 21? Could be flat.

No. But you can basically just flip the years so that the 3rd year is at or just below the QO, because a 8% descent from a higher salary gives you a lower 3rd year, or a wider spread. Could be flat, but that presents less of a benefit in any given year. Set it to descend, when you know you have tax space this year and no way to reasonably spend it, and save that extra million for later.

If you're right,... at 5% decreases,.. that's 7,368,421 first year, 7,000,000 second year, & 6,631,580 3rd year?

[Scoot McGroot]

Can you start at the QO, descend, and total 21? Could be flat.

No. But you can basically just flip the years so that the 3rd year is at or just below the QO, because a 8% descent from a higher salary gives you a lower 3rd year, or a wider spread. Could be flat, but that presents less of a benefit in any given year. Set it to descend, when you know you have tax space this year and no way to reasonably spend it, and save that extra million for later.

If you're right,... at 5% decreases,.. that's 7,368,421 first year, 7,000,000 second year, & 6,631,580 3rd year?

By resigning their own full bird rights free agent, they can rise or drop the salary annually by 8% of the first year salary.

[Pacers Forever]

From Evan Sidery

Isaiah Jackson’s contract structure with the Pacers:

2025-26: $6.5 million
2026-27: $7 million
2027-28: $7.5 million

The 23-year-old new starting center for Indiana will be making $59 million less than Myles Turner over the same span.

[Pacers Forever]

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Hmmm is Tony correcting Sidery ? I would think Tony knows what it really is ?

[JMaster5K]

No. But you can basically just flip the years so that the 3rd year is at or just below the QO, because a 8% descent from a higher salary gives you a lower 3rd year, or a wider spread. Could be flat, but that presents less of a benefit in any given year. Set it to descend, when you know you have tax space this year and no way to reasonably spend it, and save that extra million for later.

If you're right,... at 5% decreases,.. that's 7,368,421 first year, 7,000,000 second year, & 6,631,580 3rd year?

By resigning their own full bird rights free agent, they can rise or drop the salary annually by 8% of the first year salary.

Yup,… I know they go up to 8%. I was thinking that they might go 5%, to stay within the sign & trade provisions to keep some flexibility? Didn’t look to see if that was possible, just wanted to see what the numbers could look like.

[JMaster5K]

No. But you can basically just flip the years so that the 3rd year is at or just below the QO, because a 8% descent from a higher salary gives you a lower 3rd year, or a wider spread. Could be flat, but that presents less of a benefit in any given year. Set it to descend, when you know you have tax space this year and no way to reasonably spend it, and save that extra million for later.

If you're right,... at 5% decreases,.. that's 7,368,421 first year, 7,000,000 second year, & 6,631,580 3rd year?

By resigning their own full bird rights free agent, they can rise or drop the salary annually by 8% of the first year salary.

Hmmm is Tony correcting Sidery ? I would think Tony knows what it really is ?

Tony’s reporting would align with 8% decreasing. 7,608,696; 7,000,000; 6,391,304.

[Scoot McGroot]

If you're right,... at 5% decreases,.. that's 7,368,421 first year, 7,000,000 second year, & 6,631,580 3rd year?

By resigning their own full bird rights free agent, they can rise or drop the salary annually by 8% of the first year salary.

Yup,… I know they go up to 8%. I was thinking that they might go 5%, to stay within the sign & trade provisions to keep some flexibility? Didn’t look to see if that was possible, just wanted to see what the numbers could look like.

They would already be out of sign and trade range. If a trade doesn’t happen simultaneously as the signing, the contract is immediately voided.

[JMaster5K]

By resigning their own full bird rights free agent, they can rise or drop the salary annually by 8% of the first year salary.

Yup,… I know they go up to 8%. I was thinking that they might go 5%, to stay within the sign & trade provisions to keep some flexibility? Didn’t look to see if that was possible, just wanted to see what the numbers could look like.

They would already be out of sign and trade range. If a trade doesn’t happen simultaneously as the signing, the contract is immediately voided.

Yeah,... I didn't mean an actual sign & trade,.... but if the contract or extension is signed within the values of a sign & trade, then the player would remain trade eligible without having a 6 month waiting period. If I understand that correctly?

From Larry's CBA FAQ,...

101. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts?
In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:
For six months after signing a player to an extension that is over the limit (in terms of years, salary or raises) for an extend-and-trade transaction5 (see question number 95)

Of course,... I was missing the part under note 5,... 'This does not apply to rookie scale contracts, which can be extended without such limitations immediately after they are traded' -

[Scoot McGroot]

Yup,… I know they go up to 8%. I was thinking that they might go 5%, to stay within the sign & trade provisions to keep some flexibility? Didn’t look to see if that was possible, just wanted to see what the numbers could look like.

They would already be out of sign and trade range. If a trade doesn’t happen simultaneously as the signing, the contract is immediately voided.

Yeah,... I didn't mean an actual sign & trade,.... but if the contract or extension is signed within the values of a sign & trade, then the player would remain trade eligible without having a 6 month waiting period. If I understand that correctly?

That would matter when it comes to extensions, but Jackson reached free agency on July 1, so no extension was possible. At that point, any signing using his Bird Rights means he wasn’t trade eligible until December or January (if he got more than a 20% raise over his last year salary).

From Larry's CBA FAQ,...

101. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contract
In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:
For six months after signing a player to an extension that is over the limit (in terms of years, salary or raises) for an extend-and-trade transaction5 (see question number 95)

This is regarding the extend and trade provision which the newest CBA expanded to a total of 4 years total under contract and 120% raise (as opposed to the previous 3 years total and 105% raise). But again, Jackson hit free agency, so no extend and trade allowed no matter what he signed.

Of course,... I was missing the part under note 5,... 'This does not apply to rookie scale contracts, which can be extended without such limitations immediately after they are traded' -

This part pertains to players entering the 4th year of their contract and limited to extending before opening day of their 4th season. Specifically, we saw this with James Harden years ago when okc traded him to Houston right before the season started, and Houston immediately signed him to a rookie max extension, without requiring any sort of a waiting period.

[Wizop]

iJax tells Tony East he's 80 to 90% now and expects to be 100% by training camp. Could we be waiting on 100% to waive Bradley? If so, sign Freeman to a two-way and do nothing with Peter for now as no one else can sign him this season.

[Scoot McGroot]

iJax tells Tony East he's 80 to 90% now and expects to be 100% by training camp. Could we be waiting on 100% to waive Bradley? If so, sign Freeman to a two-way and do nothing with Peter for now as no one else can sign him this season.

Bradley doesn’t guarantee until 1/10, so absolutely no rush to waive him. Plus, if a trade popped up and we needed to aggregate salary, we could always include him, which might save us having to add in a Furphy or someone to make something legal.