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Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:02 pm
by PacerGuy
NY Daily News:
Looking for a big man who can rebound and guard - something its own Mehmet Okur is not always inclined to do - Utah has targeted Indiana's Jeff Foster for a potential deal. ...

Nothing I can see by looking @ the 2 teams that excites me. Anyone else?

Apparently Utah wants Jeff Foster!

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:59 pm
by 90sB-BallRocked
Looking for a big man who can rebound and guard - something its own Mehmet Okur is not always inclined to do - Utah has targeted Indiana's Jeff Foster for a potential deal


This is from Mitch Lawrence's comments in the Daily News



Don't know what Utah has that we would want (outside of D. Williams and C. Boozer)

Man I hope Bird does SOMETHING positive PLEASE!!1

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:59 pm
by Scoot McGroot
Morris Almond :wink:

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:02 pm
by PacerGuy
Scoot McGroot wrote:Morris Almond :wink:


Make a salery match & I'm in (trust me - I tried!)

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:15 pm
by Bucky O'Hare
Utah has some attractive young players....

Ronnie Brewer
Morris Almond
C.J. Miles
Paul Millsap

I'm not sure which of those four Utah would consider off-limits, but I'd be happy with any of them, especially the three guards.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:15 pm
by Scoot McGroot
The closest deal would be Jarron Collins, Jason Hart, and Morris Almond for Jeff Foster. It comes out to within $50,000 in salary for this year, but Collins and Hart both have contracts for next year, which is a negative.


But, Almond might be worth it.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:19 pm
by 90sB-BallRocked
Greetings Bucky,

I left some comments on the Jazz board. I am intrigued by Almond and Milsap, however, if SG is a weakness for the Jazz, why is Almond, constantly going to the NBDL

also unfortunately the salaries wouldn't match up.

also how do you through a pick into the equation on real gm trade machine?

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:23 pm
by Bucky O'Hare
90sB-BallRocked wrote:Greetings Bucky,

I left some comments on the Jazz board. I am intrigued by Almond and Milsap, however, if SG is a weakness for the Jazz, why is Almond, constantly going to the NBDL

also unfortunately the salaries wouldn't match up.

also how do you through a pick into the equation on real gm trade machine?


I'm a Pacers fan, honest.

As for the pick, it doesn't list them, but it doesn't matter since they carry no monetary value in trades. Just attempt the deal sans draft picks, and if it works, then just add in the draft pick(s) manually.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:21 pm
by Grang33r
First round pick for Jeff Foster?

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:46 pm
by enIIgma_chan
Scoot McGroot wrote:The closest deal would be Jarron Collins, Jason Hart, and Morris Almond for Jeff Foster. It comes out to within $50,000 in salary for this year, but Collins and Hart both have contracts for next year, which is a negative.


But, Almond might be worth it.


I would definitely do this trade, but the pacer fans immediately shoot it down. T.T Oh well... :wizard:

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:44 pm
by The Sheik
90sB-BallRocked wrote:Greetings Bucky,

I left some comments on the Jazz board. I am intrigued by Almond and Milsap, however, if SG is a weakness for the Jazz, why is Almond, constantly going to the NBDL

also unfortunately the salaries wouldn't match up.

also how do you through a pick into the equation on real gm trade machine?


SG is not a weakness for the Jazz anymore. As for Almond, Jerry Sloan is notorious for not giving rookies burn, in fact look at Ronnie Brewer last season. As of right now Almond would be #3 on our depth chart at SG, so why let him rot on the bench when he can get minutes in the DLeague.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:23 pm
by Pacersike
PacerGuy wrote:NY Daily News:
Looking for a big man who can rebound and guard - something its own Mehmet Okur is not always inclined to do - Utah has targeted Indiana's Jeff Foster for a potential deal. ...

Nothing I can see by looking @ the 2 teams that excites me. Anyone else?

Fesenko perhaps? Good offensive rebounder

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:11 pm
by mizzoupacers
Bucky O'Hare wrote:Utah has some attractive young players....

Ronnie Brewer
Morris Almond
C.J. Miles
Paul Millsap

I'm not sure which of those four Utah would consider off-limits, but I'd be happy with any of them, especially the three guards.


Interesting, and I think Foster would be a really good addition for Utah. But I think the main reason the Pacers would want to trade Foster is out of concern to get under the luxury tax NEXT YEAR, which means we would have to trade him for someone with an expiring contract. So far as I can tell, Utah doesn't have anyone with an expiring contract that is big enough to match salaries with Foster.

The Pacers need to find a team that is offering an expiring contract plus (hopefully) a draft pick or someone we might want to have like Millsap (no way we'd get someone as good and with as much potential as Brewer IMO).

I think it's going to be pretty tough before the deadline to find a willing trade partner with the right goods for sale for Foster.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 4:49 pm
by greenway84
Jeff Foster
Jamaal Tinsley
Marquis Daniels
2nd

Morris Almond
Jason Hart
Jarron Collins
Mehmet Okur
1st

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 6:05 pm
by Grang33r
greenway84 wrote:Jeff Foster
Jamaal Tinsley
Marquis Daniels
2nd

Morris Almond
Jason Hart
Jarron Collins
Mehmet Okur
1st


You're very unlikey to see any big deals like this during the regular season. Utah is trying to make a playoff push. They are winning their divison and they wanna improve on it. Dealing 3 players and getting 3 in return could make them much better, but it could also mess up the locker room with chemesty issues and break the season for them. They probably have one need that they really want to fix before the deadline and according to this report it's rebounding.

If they were unable to deal their first round pick for Foster, the deal i'd look for most is Morris Almond and Ronnie Price.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 7:19 pm
by greenway84
Grang33r wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You're very unlikey to see any big deals like this during the regular season. Utah is trying to make a playoff push. They are winning their divison and they wanna improve on it. Dealing 3 players and getting 3 in return could make them much better, but it could also mess up the locker room with chemesty issues and break the season for them. They probably have one need that they really want to fix before the deadline and according to this report it's rebounding.

If they were unable to deal their first round pick for Foster, the deal i'd look for most is Morris Almond and Ronnie Price.


Good point. So whats your thought on the miami trade. Seeing as they arent making the playoffs. I like the deal myself.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 9:24 pm
by Grang33r
greenway84 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Good point. So whats your thought on the miami trade. Seeing as they arent making the playoffs. I like the deal myself.


On an excitement level, i do like it. But, in todays world, i don't know. Ricky Davis i'd stay away from. Poor attitute. magine what he'd be like in Indianapolis? Jason Williams doesn't carry the greatest image either. It doesn't seem we would improve all that much with that trade because they will most likey have a top 5 pick and the players we'd be getting back are no good for us.

However, that all being said, i would love to have Daequan Cook and
Dorell Wright on this team.

I think the Heat will stay put though. Draft a Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo and have one of the best backcourts in all of the game. And i think they will wait til Jermaine O'Neal is a UFA and throw tons of money his way.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:33 pm
by greenway84
Grang33r wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



On an excitement level, i do like it. But, in todays world, i don't know. Ricky Davis i'd stay away from. Poor attitute. magine what he'd be like in Indianapolis? Jason Williams doesn't carry the greatest image either. It doesn't seem we would improve all that much with that trade because they will most likey have a top 5 pick and the players we'd be getting back are no good for us.

However, that all being said, i would love to have Daequan Cook and
Dorell Wright on this team.

I think the Heat will stay put though. Draft a Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo and have one of the best backcourts in all of the game. And i think they will wait til Jermaine O'Neal is a UFA and throw tons of money his way.


I agree with the davis and williams but they along with zoe would be exp more than anything. cook will be big i think. wright is exp too. thats a ton of cap space, a good pick, and prospect. not to mention we finally rid ourselves of tinsley, and rush wont be sticking around anyways.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 11:18 pm
by Scoot McGroot
greenway84 wrote:Jeff Foster
Jamaal Tinsley
Marquis Daniels
2nd

Morris Almond
Jason Hart
Jarron Collins
Mehmet Okur
1st



I think you'd ultimately have to swap who gives the 2nd and who gives the 1st.

If we're able to move Tinsley's contract, and get back not only Morris Almond, but Mehmet Okur as well, we're probably giving up the 1st rounder in that offer.

Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:40 am
by CableKC
I have a feeling that if anybody is moved....it would be Foster. I love what he does for this team....but if there is anytime that his trade value would be at it's highest....it would be now.

Not only is he showing how valuable he is to a team like the Pacers that is deprived of a real Frontcourt.....but with the Gasol trade....I would think that some Western Conference team would need a Frontcourt player that can rebound and defend opposing Big Men.

He maybe better suited to come off the bench and have no real offensive game.....but he can contribute to a Western Conference Playoff team as the "first Big Man" off the bench that can solidly defend Big Men like Gasol or Duncan while providing some solid rebounding.

Although I would hate to see him go....I hope that Western Conference GMs are calling up Bird to see how much it would cost to pry away Foster.