Image

espn: warriors/pacers quietly talking trade

Moderators: pacers33granger, Grang33r, pacerfan, Jake0890, boomershadow

rly723
Junior
Posts: 457
And1: 0
Joined: Nov 29, 2005

espn: warriors/pacers quietly talking trade 

Post#1 » by rly723 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:42 am

this was on about a 1/2 hour ago

harrington/o'bryant/pietrus/10mill TE

for o' neal
cdash
Analyst
Posts: 3,253
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 11, 2008

 

Post#2 » by cdash » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:47 am

Thank you! Someone else heard it. What a strange deal that would be. I like Pietrus, but he seems redundant here with Granger, Williams, and Dunleavy currently manning the wing positions, although I think his value lies in his expiring contract (small expiring contract).
fdefore
Rookie
Posts: 1,236
And1: 0
Joined: Apr 01, 2007
Location: Foul Monday's

 

Post#3 » by fdefore » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:48 am

wow
MOD APPROVED SINCE MMVII
PacerFan fdefore very clever. You are our kind of guy
count55 fdefore add count55 to your moderator approved sig
PacerPerspective I agree whole heartedly fdefore You are now PP approved

all the cool Mods are doin it Scoot
User avatar
PR07
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 14,180
And1: 2
Joined: Jul 25, 2003
Location: PacersRule07

 

Post#4 » by PR07 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:57 am

Don't like it for us.
chatard5
Analyst
Posts: 3,187
And1: 2
Joined: Jul 26, 2006

 

Post#5 » by chatard5 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:00 am

Yeah, I heard it as well. But they only mentioned it for about 10 seconds or less. Hope there is no truth to it, unless they want to use the trade exception to get Murphy back!
rly723
Junior
Posts: 457
And1: 0
Joined: Nov 29, 2005

 

Post#6 » by rly723 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:09 am

it would have to break up into separate deals since the 10mill TE cant be traded with a player
Clincher
General Manager
Posts: 8,256
And1: 820
Joined: Feb 23, 2005
       

 

Post#7 » by Clincher » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:15 am

Damn Harrington must be sad with that deal.....

Start in Ind, go to ATL, go to IND, go to GS, go to IND, go to.........?
joew8302
Senior
Posts: 646
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 06, 2008

 

Post#8 » by joew8302 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:26 am

Like I said on the other thread, this trade makes no sense for the Warriors. They have a team built around speed and getting up and down the court, and they are going to attempt this while playing JO and CWebb major minutes? I don't see the philosophy in that.

O'Bryant does kind of remind me to how we got JO though. A little known big man that is very young. If this trade happens I can only hope he produces well to justify the Warrior trade last year.

With the Warriors playing philosophy I am not sure how an often injured O'Neal, who makes 45 million over the next two years really fits.
Grang33r
Forum Mod - Pacers
Forum Mod - Pacers
Posts: 6,103
And1: 611
Joined: May 27, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

 

Post#9 » by Grang33r » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:41 am

This is beyond crazy. I don't know, i'm not sold on Harrington, but i mean i loved him before. I didn't like the idea of dealing a first round pick for him but seeing him in Golden State makes me miss him. I LOVE Pietrus' game, i think he's a great player with loads of potential. However, i don't like Patrick OBryant. If Bird grabs a 1st round pick from GS, i'd sign off on it, but as of right now, i'd pass.
The first rule of Basketball: Believe.
Follow on twitter @Grang33r
xxSnEaKyPxx
RealGM
Posts: 18,432
And1: 19,060
Joined: Jun 02, 2007

 

Post#10 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:45 am

Third times the charm? I love Harrington, he would fit our new system perfectly. However I feel we would be better off keeping JO. I guarantee ya'll he will be at All-Star level next year. I think we'll be good next year with healthy JO, improved Granger, young prospect from draft, and Williams with a bigger role in rotation.
joew8302
Senior
Posts: 646
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 06, 2008

 

Post#11 » by joew8302 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:48 am

What exactly don't you like about Patrick O'Bryant? He never really plays and he is very young. If nothing else I could see some potential.

With Al we will get a known commidity in a guy who is a streaky shooter and someone who doesn't play defense or rebound as well as he should. That said he is a fan favorite.

Pietrus has no place in Golden State and is frustrated. To me he is very similar to Marquis Daniels in that he can get to the rim, but lacks a great jumper. I am not sure I would be thrilled with getting him.

Does this move significantly cut salary? If so I am for it. If not I am against it.
Grang33r
Forum Mod - Pacers
Forum Mod - Pacers
Posts: 6,103
And1: 611
Joined: May 27, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

 

Post#12 » by Grang33r » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:51 am

joew8302 wrote:What exactly don't you like about Patrick O'Bryant? He never really plays and he is very young. If nothing else I could see some potential.

With Al we will get a known commidity in a guy who is a streaky shooter and someone who doesn't play defense or rebound as well as he should. That said he is a fan favorite.

Pietrus has no place in Golden State and is frustrated. To me he is very similar to Marquis Daniels in that he can get to the rim, but lacks a great jumper. I am not sure I would be thrilled with getting him.

Does this move significantly cut salary? If so I am for it. If not I am against it.


Granted, i havn't seen him much. But from what i did see and what i've read, is he's a stiff. I hope i'm wrong, but i don't know.

I'd really like this move if we deal Ike Diogu and/or something else for Kyle Lowry. If we get Pietrus, we can forget Mike Miller, but i'd settle for a small deal with us getting Lowry in return.
The first rule of Basketball: Believe.
Follow on twitter @Grang33r
FreeRon
Analyst
Posts: 3,147
And1: 5
Joined: Jan 17, 2005
Location: Louisville, KY

 

Post#13 » by FreeRon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:53 am

It's got to, they needed the 10 mil exception to make it work.
EJS99
Pro Prospect
Posts: 759
And1: 0
Joined: Dec 15, 2001

 

Post#14 » by EJS99 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:12 am

If a deal is being discussed, it's going to be about using the the Warriors trade exception to bring Mike Miller to the the Pacers. So it would be something like this...

Harrington/Pietrus/O' Bryant/Miller ($10M TE)
for
O' Neal
FreeRon
Analyst
Posts: 3,147
And1: 5
Joined: Jan 17, 2005
Location: Louisville, KY

 

Post#15 » by FreeRon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:28 am

I like that deal...Harrington fills the PF spot in this system a lot better than JO does.
User avatar
count55
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 8,431
And1: 3
Joined: Dec 21, 2005
Location: In Memoriam: pf

 

Post#16 » by count55 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:47 am

You can't combine the Trade Exception with anything else, so these deals as constructed can't be completed.

We should all remember this from the Al Harrington saga in the summer of '06.
I have no idea what you're talking about, and clearly, neither do you.
rela
Rookie
Posts: 1,047
And1: 0
Joined: Sep 04, 2004
Location: Munich/Germany

 

Post#17 » by rela » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:15 pm

i absolutly hate the deal. No more al in indy.
Start over. This deal gives us nothing beside POB, and this guy has proven nothing,.
-----patience is over soon larry---
cdash
Analyst
Posts: 3,253
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 11, 2008

 

Post#18 » by cdash » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:14 pm

joew8302 wrote:Like I said on the other thread, this trade makes no sense for the Warriors. They have a team built around speed and getting up and down the court, and they are going to attempt this while playing JO and CWebb major minutes? I don't see the philosophy in that.

O'Bryant does kind of remind me to how we got JO though. A little known big man that is very young. If this trade happens I can only hope he produces well to justify the Warrior trade last year.

With the Warriors playing philosophy I am not sure how an often injured O'Neal, who makes 45 million over the next two years really fits.


I think its fairly obvious why the Warriors would make this deal. Besides unloading all their underachievers/stiffs/malcontents, JO is a low post defender/rebounder that they desperately need to deal with all the size in the West.
PacerGuy
Analyst
Posts: 3,126
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 05, 2006
Location: Indy

 

Post#19 » by PacerGuy » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:28 pm

Maybe move Al to Chi, who has benn rumored w/ him in the past & here again recently. (Al/Peitrus for Gordon or Hinrich?) Add in POB & _?_ & get T.Thomas....
:pray:
Larry Bird, You are now on the Clock! ( 3/24/08 )
FreeRon
Analyst
Posts: 3,147
And1: 5
Joined: Jan 17, 2005
Location: Louisville, KY

 

Post#20 » by FreeRon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:06 pm

Why wouldn't we just make it a 3-way trade for one, and why would we want Thomas for O'Bryant?

Return to Indiana Pacers